In a social media post sent late on Thanksgiving, US president said he would ‘end all federal benefits and subsidies to noncitizens’ following Washington DC shooting
What does any of that have to do with the issues in question? How does suing help when he ignores the courts? How does pestering your congressperson help if they don’t, or can’t, do anything?
This kind of “Just rise up!” thinking downplays the very real hurdles to effective mass organization. We need specific, scheduled actions with points of contact and well-defined scopes.
Why can’t your congress person do anything? Of course they can. If nothing else they wield power through influence, and at present they are not using that power to push back against these actions in any meaningful way. Clearly they are not being pressured enough by their constituents. And yes, you do need specific scheduled actions. Be part of that change and push back against the government who ultimately answers to you, the people.
edit: like c’mon, the response to your president enacting illegal & fascist orders is not to say “well who is going to do anything?”, it’s to speak out and act up. Are y’all really that defeatist?
That’s not what I’m saying at all. I think you’ve lost the context here. Let me summarize the exchange:
“Who is going to home him accountable when Congress and the courts won’t?”
“The people should rise up”
“How?”
“By using the courts and Congress”
This is where I’m confused. I’m not saying those aren’t things we should do, but this was explicitly a question about what to do when those methods are failing.
Who is going to stop him? Congress aint doing shit. Maybe the courts will rule against them but who is going to enforce the ruling?
The people. Time to rise up, no?
Sure. How exactly do you propose to “rise up”?
There are lots of ways. Here is one set of suggestions: https://newrepublic.com/article/193193/fighting-back-citizen-guide-resistance
What does any of that have to do with the issues in question? How does suing help when he ignores the courts? How does pestering your congressperson help if they don’t, or can’t, do anything?
This kind of “Just rise up!” thinking downplays the very real hurdles to effective mass organization. We need specific, scheduled actions with points of contact and well-defined scopes.
Why can’t your congress person do anything? Of course they can. If nothing else they wield power through influence, and at present they are not using that power to push back against these actions in any meaningful way. Clearly they are not being pressured enough by their constituents. And yes, you do need specific scheduled actions. Be part of that change and push back against the government who ultimately answers to you, the people.
edit: like c’mon, the response to your president enacting illegal & fascist orders is not to say “well who is going to do anything?”, it’s to speak out and act up. Are y’all really that defeatist?
That’s not what I’m saying at all. I think you’ve lost the context here. Let me summarize the exchange:
“Who is going to home him accountable when Congress and the courts won’t?”
“The people should rise up”
“How?”
“By using the courts and Congress”
This is where I’m confused. I’m not saying those aren’t things we should do, but this was explicitly a question about what to do when those methods are failing.
Can’t, got work on Monday