Sony is begging you: please forget about concord
They really hate their own fans. Be aware of that next time you purchase any Sony product.
I don’t understand the word “purchasing” in the context of “Sony product”. What do you mean with that?
If you want to pirate a camera, a phone, a set of headphones, a walkman, a games console or any other consumer electronics goods, be my guest. I don’t see how you can do that…
Simple. I’ll just download it. Back in my day you used to be able to download RAM too.
epic anti-piracy ad music
You wouldn’t download RAMFunnily enough they pirated that music for the anti-piracy ad on vhs tapes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sony_Interactive_Entertainment_video_games
Sony has been the publisher for a zillion games via SEI.
They also literally directly own a bunch of game studios including Naughty Dog (The Last of Us, Uncharted, all the way back to Crash Bandicoot), Arrowhead Studios (Helldivers), Guerilla Games (Horizon) and now also Bungie (Destiny, Halo). That’s just a few of the big studios they own. Complete list here: https://www.gamesradar.com/playstation-studios-sony/
Edit: Oh and of course they owned the studio that made Concord (Firewalk Studios)
Yes I know, (my Sony boycott is a well-informed one, before I purchase a game I make sure that there’s no Sony stench coming off it), and I can understand how you can pirate those (Which I assume was the joke that Tattorack was making).
But Sony is much bigger than just its games division. It’s also the music label, the movie label and the electronics. Music and Movies can also be “pirated”, but not the consumer electronics.
Sony doesn’t only make games.
I’m not awake yet. Thought this was a response to me. Sorry. Have had a crappy night
I stopped buying anime when they bought up all the major NA distributors.
StopKillingGames? More like StopMurderingGamesAndExecutingThemInColdBlood.
Assholes
My understanding is they refunded everyone who bought it.
Still dumb for them to do this, don’t mistake me.
Once in a while Sony reconfirms my choice to boycott them since the rootkit CD scandal in the 00s.
I’ve made a whole series of purchase decisions based on similar motivation. For decades I’ve avoided DSLRs, consoles, games, phones, tablets and a whole bunch of products made by Sony. I pirate what I can, everything else is just off-limits.
The only exception I make is used consoles since I know they hate that the used market exists. Even then, they haven’t really put out anything worth getting since ps2.
Same. I’ll never make the mistake of purchasing a Sony product ever again
They make some pretty good bluetooth headphones though…
I’ve been using Bose Quiet Comfort noise reduction headphones for almost 2 decades now, ever since I had to do software development in a large open space office alongside the noisy business-side types (this was in Investment Banking - so whilst not a heavy-machinery-noisy environment, certain the top range of office noisy) and those they were very good already back then (I’m still using at home the first model I got, after replacing the ear-pads which is what gets damaged over time).
The QC 3.5 and onwards have bluetooth AND also a wired connection as fallback (which I have had to use with devices without bluetooth).
Of course, you pay for it (last ones I got were €250 if I remember it correctly), but then again they last a long time (as I said, the first ones, now almost 2 decades old, are still work fine even if the outside is all scratched up and they’re now on the 5th or 6th pair or earpads).
I very much doubt Sony one’s are anywhere close to that, especially given that the quality of Sony devices took a massive dive in the late 90s when top level management which until then was dominated by the Engineering side was taken over by the Media side took over (before they used to be known for the high quality of their electronics).
I actually have been using those Bose QC over the ear ones for a few years now (and I already had to replace the pads once), and they’re not great. IIRC I paid like $300, and they’re definitely not worth that much. I’m not that picky about sound quality, but the UX is terrible. Powering it on is a crap shoot. Sometimes you press the button, and 5 seconds later it plays a sound to indicate it turned on. Sometimes it takes 10 seconds, sometimes more. Sometimes it doesn’t even turn on, and you just sit there doing nothing waiting to see if it decided to turn on this time, or if you have to hold the button for ~30 seconds to get it unstuck. Sometimes that sound that plays when powering on even gets interrupted by the bluetooth connection notice. Sometimes, it gets stuck in a loop switching between sound isolation modes, just endlessly saying “Aware. Immersion. Quiet.” until you intervene.
It’s also hard to simply wear them around your neck when your ears get tired and you just want to use them as tiny speakers. This is for two reasons. First, the placement of the physical buttons on the side of the cups means that they will accidentally get pressed when the cups collide (which will happen when you wear them around your neck). Second, they will constantly pause whenever they get close to your chin, as they’ll think you took them off your head. That part is overly sensitive, and they were too cheap/lazy to add a simple sensor to detect the rotation of the cups to know when they’re not being used over-ear.
And finally, the battery life is not good enough to last an entire work day, so you’ll have to connect them to power… except, for some reason, connecting a usb cable to charge causes it to shutdown immediately. You can use them while charging, but you have to power them back on/reconnect them after connecting the cable, which means you have to play the annoying waiting/guessing game again with the power button!
I have other complaints, but whatever. When they’re working, they’re fine, but I’m probably done with Bose. These little issues on such an expensive product left a bad taste in my mouth. I don’t know how Sony’s over the ear headphones compare, but the in-ear ones I have are amazing simply because they work as intended 99% of the time without any of this kind of bullshit.
This is totally different from my experience.
I use headphones, which cover the full ear so I don’t get any “tired ears” from those. Maybe you’re using a totally different model (no idea if BOSE have earphones and if they’re any good - I avoid any earphones exactly because of getting “tired ears” with them).
If you’re using headphones, maybe you have the QC 3 (which are widelly seen as shit)?!
I have had over the years the original QC, QC 2.5 and QC 3.5 and still use the QC and QC 3.5 with none of those problems (funnilly enough, the oldest, an original QC, uses a single removable AAA battery, and I use rechargeable ones and even that will last around 3 - 4 days, whilst the built-in LiPo in the QC 3.5 lasts even more than that when using bluetooth, and even more when using an audio wire).
I’m using “Bose QuietComfort Ultra Headphones” manufactured in 2024, according to the app. I can’t find any model number, but I just looked up the order in my email and it turns out I’ve actually only had it for a little over a year, and the price was a ridiculous $380. Luckily, I only ended up paying around $200 because I had reward points with the vendor, but I would definitely not recommend these to anyone at $400. At $200? Maybe, but I wouldn’t buy it again at that lower price.
My ears fit in the cups, but they still get tired sometimes after wearing them the entire day. Idk what to tell you, I guess my ears are too big and brush up against the inside of the cups? It’s not a real issue for me, and doesn’t happen often, which is why I didn’t even mention comfort as being a problem.
Do you really not experience any of the software issues I mentioned? The Bose app even says I’m on the latest firmware version.
Fuck, maybe they went down in quality again 😬
In my own experience, the original QCs were great tech for the time, the QC 2.5 (or maybe I had a QC 2?) had issues and lasted much less and then the QC 3.5 were again great (the battery lasts way longer, build quality is nice and the user interface is decent with no such problems as your reported “easy to switch off” button).
Also I never used the manufacturer’s app, and it’s not really needed even with with the wireless 3.5 model (I don’t even know if there’s a mfg app for those), certainly not with the previous ones which are wired.
(As a general rule I avoid mfg apps since they’re almost always overbloated shit and instead always chose devices which do not require an app).
The QC 3.5 was launched almost a decade ago, so plenty of time for later models to have been enshittified.
Damn those headphones you have are from the pre-enshitiffication era. Cherish them!
The headphones work without the app fortunately, but you need it to control EQ settings, isolation settings, and install firmware updates. They’re kinda like the shitty software that PC gaming peripherals ship to control LED colors or whatever.
I think I’ve boycotted sony for one thing or the other for the large part of my adult life. Only backed down in 2021 and bought some shares. Time to return back to normal I guess.
So, it’s all about control, at the end.
So they invest millions in a project that fundamentally failed, ax the official servers prematurely and pretend it doesn’t exist.
But then go after people who still bother with it.
They ought to be fucking thankful people still play it at all.
There’s isn’t even an IP argument to be had. They abandoned the game, so why pay a lawyer to
sewsue?Edit to correct.
so why pay a lawyer to sew?
I hate to be that person but just in case you wanted to know, it’s spelled sue.
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sew: to unite or fasten by stitches
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sue: to seek justice or right from a person by legal process, specifically to bring an action against
Fuck me I can’t go two days in a row without a spelling mistake! Also don’t apologize, I would rather be embarrassed once now, than potentially infinitely in the future!
BTW, to answer your original question: just because someone is a lawyer doesn’t mean that can’t also know how to sew. I wouldn’t be surprised to find a darning egg or two in a legal professional’s briefcase. They do have to wear fancy suits, after all.
Lol, this is so apropos! I just started studying law and am a bad ass needle pointer.
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IANAL but, just because they abandoned the game doesn’t mean they don’t own the IP. It’s still their IP and unfortunately IP laws everywhere suck ass. IP law only works if you defend your IP. If you don’t defend it then it can weaken IP protection on other IP you own. Even if you don’t actively use the IP you still need to defend it to keep up protection on your other IP.
Yeah, you’re absolutely right.
So how can we help set up more servers to cost them even more legal fees?
I’m new to the Linux scene, but if you find a bot that does this, I’ll totally run it.
Ahh yes, just the PR Sony wants after Valve dropped an atomic bomb of an announcement.
What was the announcement?
- New home console (called “GabeCube”)
- New Steam controller
- New VR Headset (called “Steam Frame”)
Oh, yeah. I saw that all over Lemmy. I thought they might have been talking about something else.
Thanks for the response.
Pissing off perhaps the only fans of this failure lol
you’d think they would be happy people are going out of their way to preserve the service. It gives them excuse to shut down their servers if they can point to these. but nope
Oh it’s never about that. You can’t milk a game that lives for free. Although they pay for publicity (ads, etc.), getting it for free means less cash flow, means less numbers on quarterly earnings, means less investor money.
It is always about the number on their bank account, never about you, me, or anyone else. They don’t give a flying fuck, they’d happily let us burn in a house fire if it meant just a teensy bit more dollars.
Fuck Sony, Nintendo, EA, Ubisoft, ActiBlizzosoft, and the rest of them.
Blame the suits, they got into the video game business once Atari became a household word.
I do, and always will. Hopefully more studios will split into smaller ones and start making small, simple games for $15 that will sell like hotcakes. Creative talent is simply wasted on this AAA slop.
It gives them excuse to shut down their servers if they can point to these.
I’m pretty sure they already shut down all their servers. They refunded everyone and try to forget the game ever happened.
Its bad press for them. The whole game is bad news for them all the way around. I bet they won’t ever mention it by name again.
It all comes down to Japanese peoples’ beliefs. They see modding their games as a shameful behavior because they compare it to plagiarism. As ridiculous as it is, they see it as stealing their ideas instead of coming up with your own. In their eyes you should be making your own game from scratch instead of ressurecting theirs.
It’s the same reason why Nintendo is so god damn evil. In their eyes they’re doing the honorable thing by suing their own customer base.
They see modding their games as a shameful behavior
Seems some of them are avowed purists.
They also think modding is a form of cheating, as in supposedly breaking the game mechanics, forgetting that some games are good visually but have awful difficulty or needing more immersion.
They really want people to forget all about Concord.
Had to laugh, here I am scrolling Lemmy and see a post about those server existing, random post next, then this one.
So DMCA takedowns are only for gameplay videos, they haven’t sent any takedown (or any other) notice to whoever is hosting / running / developing the custom server code.
It will be interesting to see how it progresses.
You can’t go after the server devs without those streamers publicizing the takedowns. The better choice is to hit streamers then nuke the servers once people forget about the game.
Thank you everyone for giving them money so they can use that money against us.
Are people still having anything to do with Sony? The absolutly worst compny ever, Comcast is second place. Complete shit.
more like sony is begging people to forget about sony. Even when people do something that could benefit them they punish them. (concord failed, but this way there could have been a chance people might have gotten interested in it again and they could have tried opening official servers again, with basically no risk, and start selling the game again). They rather eat up millions of losses than give ANY agency to the users. And ultimately, isnt this just people trying to make the game they paid for work? How is this different from a scam anyway? They got what little money they got and those who gave it to them got nothing for it.
Dont buy anything shitty companies like this make. By doing so you enable them and are part of the problem.
