• nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
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    They’re not. Capital might have found (or thought they found) a way to leverage and control Trump, but they didn’t want him in the first place. He took over anyways. The reasons for this many, but it shows that the path is available, even if difficult. The idea that you’re going to break the two party system from outside of it it without a total societal collapse at this point is pure fantasy.

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      Its more absurd that you think that you can change a corrupt party from within. And that you are willing to do the same thing that has failed every time and expecting different results. If you think trump getting worse will change that calculus for the better, you are mistaken, democrats are somehow losing footing by being obviously feckless, and actively preventing what you hope for. The voters would be confused you see. It the mandate of the people. We got to reach out to the republicans, blah blah blah

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        What described is a plan that as worked in the past. What you’ve laid out is nothing. Screaming at voters to nice you from the sidelines while you screech about the evils of capitalism as achieved what exactly? You have literally no political relevance.

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          I am not the ones screaming at voters. I am not the one who blames an entire group of disenfranchised progressive voters whom democrats told to get fucked, even when the math didn’t shake out.

          ‘Hey guys, you know how the Republican party turned extreme due to the oligarchs funding a think tank managed to use their institutional power and wealth to organize the installation of agents in positions of power in order accelerate their already authoritarian direction? Well what if we do the same! But against the democrats rightward momentum…. And without vast wealth… or power… or direction. And at the local scale…”

          We both agree that democrat leaders do not want change and that requires something to be done to fix it. I don’t believe in your plan to use the same mechanism for change completely opposite the conditions in which it succeeded only in accelerating their rightward March.

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        This reeks of a highschool/college student with strong ideals and very little real world experience. Good luck destroying the democratic party, the Republicans have been trying for decades.

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          They seem very good at it recently, though it’s not hard to miss when literally every thing is a target. Good luck getting corruption to willingly give up power.