This should be the sticking point to invoke the 25th. Officials need to be loud and make a stink about how Trump can’t tell fact from clear fiction and therefore cannot perform the duties of the office. Make the people of America see the image on the news everyday and make those on his side say out loud if they think it’s fake or real. Half of the masses will never be convinced that he lacks the morality to lead until they’re already in his camps. This is the earliest clear as day moment to act on that which cannot be held to subjective scrutiny or partisanship.
You didn’t highlight the best part of that interview, and something other journalists should start doing, he handed tRump his own ass and never looked or sounded flustered or worried about the results of the interview. He asked hard questions, even some that sounded dumbed down to help tRump’s feeble brain understand.
The best part was shortly after this quote, I think, where tRump said how something might not happen, like completing the rest of the interview, and the dude straight said, “we will.” The look on tRump’s face was like a parent hearing their kid tell them “no” for the first time. But he didn’t say anything more. It was a glorious example of how to deal with a bully.
tRump can’t handle direct confrontation to his actions. He gets pissed and, if he can, tries to leave the scene or, like this interview and the debate with Harris, he’s stuck and has to do the whole thing or look like a baby. It’s why his only push back is digital or when the other party can’t rebuke him. He’s a coward who, like most conservatives, can dish it out but can’t take it. He relies on his base to do the tough guy stuff and uses his platform to rile them up.