Read the title and thought she may have been dead, scared the crap out of me. Glad everyone is safe. Crazy stuff
thought she may have been dead,
If Israel had its way she would be.
Israel just loves killing activists, doesn’t it?
Rachel Aliene Corrie (April 10, 1979 – March 16, 2003) was an American nonviolence activist and diarist.[1][2] She was a member of the pro-Palestinian International Solidarity Movement (ISM)[3] and was active throughout the Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories. In 2003, she was in Rafah, a city in the Gaza Strip, where the Israeli military was demolishing Palestinian houses at the height of the Second Intifada. While protesting the demolitions as they were being carried out, she was killed by an Israeli armored bulldozer that crushed her.[4][2][5][6]
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Corrie went to Gaza as part of her college’s senior-year independent-study proposal to connect Olympia and Rafah with each other as sister cities.[7] While in Rafah on March 16, 2003, she joined other ISM activists in efforts to nonviolently prevent Israel’s demolition of Palestinian property,[2][8][9] where she was killed by an Israeli bulldozer that crushed her. Physicians present and fellow ISM activists stated that Corrie had been wearing a high-visibility vest and was deliberately driven over, while the Israeli army said that it was an accident because the bulldozer operator did not see her.[10][11][12][13] Following the incident, an Israeli military investigation concluded that Corrie’s death was the result of an accident and that the bulldozer operator had limited visibility. The ruling attracted criticism from Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, B’Tselem, and Yesh Din.[14][15][16] HRW stated that the ruling represented a pattern of impunity for Israeli forces.[14]
“a pattern of impunity for Israeli forces” back in 2003
In 2005, Corrie’s parents filed a civil lawsuit, charging the Israeli state with not conducting a full and credible investigation into the case and therefore holding responsibility for her death.[17] They contended that either she had been intentionally killed or the Israeli soldiers on scene had acted with reckless neglect.[5] They sued for a symbolic US$1 in damages. However, an Israeli court rejected their suit in August 2012 and upheld the results of the military’s investigation, ruling that the Israeli government was not responsible for Corrie’s death,[5] again attracting criticism from Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and various activists.[14][15][16] An appeal against this ruling was heard on May 21, 2014, but was ultimately rejected by the Supreme Court of Israel on February 14, 2015.[18]
And corporate interests too, to make it all really fucked up.
Revelation of Caterpillar surveillance In 2017, documents emerged that showed Caterpillar had hired private investigators to spy on the family of Rachel Corrie following her killing in early 2003.[126][127]
James Henry Dominic Miller (18 December 1968 – 2 May 2003) was a Welsh cameraman, producer, and director, and recipient of numerous awards, including five Emmy Awards. He was killed by Israel Defense Forces (IDF) gunfire while filming a documentary in the Gaza Strip.[1] Miller worked regularly with Saira Shah for several years, and they formed a business partnership to operate an independent production company called Frostbite Productions in 2001.
The Israeli Military Police investigation into Miller’s death closed on 9 March 2005 with an announcement that the soldier suspected of firing the shot would not be indicted as they could not establish that his shot was responsible, though he would be disciplined for violating the rules of engagement and for changing his account of the incident.[2] On 6 April 2006, the inquest jury at St Pancras Coroner’s Court in London returned a verdict of unlawful killing, finding that Miller had been “murdered.”[1] Forensic experts from London Metropolitan Police concluded that the bullets were consistent with those used by the IDF. After meetings with the Miller family, the Attorney General, Lord Goldsmith, sent a formal request to his Israeli counterpart in June 2007 for prosecution proceedings to be enacted within six weeks against the soldier responsible for firing the shot.[3] The requests were ignored by the Israeli government and prosecution proceedings have never been held.
Like, didn’t we freak out (justifiably) when North Korea killed an American kid? Is it just acceptable to routinely slaughter non combatants without recourse?
Is it just acceptable to routinely slaughter non combatants without recourse?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_flotilla_raid an incident from 2010 where IDF soldiers boarded a humanitarian ship and ten people were killed among a large numbers of others wounded. in case anyone thinks this wasn’t a big deal
It says the boat was carrying her, and later says she planned to board later that day. Plus the headline. Confusing.
literal clickbait
No, bad journalism. This is an important, overlooked, under covered story. I don’t particularly care about Thuneberg or her location, but Israel bombing humanitarian aid ships should be much more widely reported.
also Greta is a well known climate activist… now trying to keep herself famous by almost riding boats to israel….
it is very important, but i see no reason to listen to her about this.
in fact, attaching her name to this is extremely counterproductive….
She is both a climate activist and advocate for Palestinian liberation, and framing her risking her life to demonstrate solidarity with the Palestinians as a shallow attempt at staying famous is incredibly ignorant and arrogant.
arrogant, just looking for big words now?
did you notice her name hasn’t been in the news for a while? climate change didn’t stop being a problem…
she’s sticking her face into something she has no expertise with… why wasn’t she on the boat then? risking your life isn’t that noble if you’re not doing anything with it. she’s not good at navigating boats or unloading them, she has no callouses on her hands… she has no purpose for being on that boat other than symbolism
This is ridiculous. What would Greta have to do to earn your respect, huh? You’re really gonna ask “why wasn’t she on the boat” as if she planned for the humanitarian aid vessel to be drone striked the day before she was going to board it? The fuck are you doing?
Dude. It’s a bad troll. Just stop replying
white savior complex
Right, white people aren’t allowed to be activists. Instead they should bitch and moan in internet comment sections about activists not doing enough or not doing the right things while doing nothing themselves.
well that’s a false dilemma if i ever saw one
Greta Thunberg - how to milk one viral moment you had as a kid and make a career out of it.
Uh… What the fuck man? This woman was going to an active warzone to deliver aid to genocide victims. Let me repeat, she was headed to an active warzone where aid workers have routinely been targeted and murdered. If you think that’s making a career out of a viral moment then you need to fuck off.
I have complex feelings regarding Greta.
Sure, she’s an inspiration and she’s courageous and selfless and her heart is in the right place.
Other people were on this boat who were also at risk, many other atrocities have occurred during this war and the one in Ukraine in which Greta wasn’t present. Her involvement in this one is not why it’s significant, and the people present at all the others were no less courageous than Greta.
In fact, there’s a lot of other people being a lot more courageous receiving a lot less recognition.
Additionally, in some cases the recognition Greta receives is counter-productive. I mean, putting a world famous influencer on a humanitarian mission to a place where the aggressors want as little attention as possible isn’t really a sound strategy.
All that aside, I have two main concerns:
One is that Greta is the hero of the leftists, but she’s unable to engage with the right - the people who really need to alter their behavior. To them she’s just an insufferable child who makes them feel guilty - that’s not how you reach people and propagate change.
Second is that, I don’t think she’s used her influence very well. During the US campaign she was pushing the “both sides bad” narrative.
Edit: I’m happy to wear the drive-by downvotes, but I had hoped for some more compelling rebuttals - 150 downvotes deep and the best we’ve received is that Kamala was bad.
Well neither side has done enough, if anything, about people dying in Gaza.
Sure, but my point is that lots more people have been a lot more effective than Greta, who IMO has been counter productive.
How has she been counterproductive?
She was pushing the both sides narrative during the US campaign.
Well both sides support Israel, therefore both sides are bad.
I mean, putting a world famous influencer on a humanitarian mission to a place where the aggressors want as little attention as possible isn’t really a sound strategy.
How? If anything it is sound strategy because it puts the media’s eyes on the event. It’s one thing to kill a bunch of nameless activists, but it’s another to kill Greta Thunberg, or at least I’d like to believe it is.
One is that Greta is the hero of the leftists, but she’s unable to engage with the right - the people who really need to alter their behavior.
They’re never gonna change their behavior, or at least not due to messaging from the left. The right will have to be dragged kicking and screaming to civilization by the sane two thirds of society. Trying to get the right on board with good things is a fool’s errand. In general, the role of leftwing activists is to either promote their own politicians or force neoliberals’ hands, not persuade the right.
During the US campaign she was pushing the “both sides bad” narrative.
I mean she’s right. We can argue about the tactical merits and demerits of endorsing Harris all day but the fact of the matter is that she was an absolutely terrible candidate and “What the shit? You want me to endorse that‽” is a valid position to take no matter how you personally feel about it. Greta didn’t get where she is now by compromising with neoliberals and there’s no reason to expect her to start now.
I mean she’s right. We can argue about the tactical merits and demerits of endorsing Harris all day but the fact of the matter is that she was an absolutely terrible candidate
Sorry, if that’s your opinion, having installed a fascist dictator who has ruined the global economy and set up concentration camps, then you don’t have any credibility.
I don’t need any credibility to say that Kamala border wall/fracking/“most lethal army in the world”/“Nothing comes to mind” Harris was anything short of absolutely terrible.
No that’s true, you don’t need to have any credibility to say anything you like, but when you say things that demonstrate a complete lack of reason it undermines everything else you say.
Then why do you keep posting?
Edit: I’m happy to wear the drive-by downvotes, but I had hoped for some more compelling rebuttals
The perfect is the enemy of the good. It’s that simple. Nothing you’ve said really makes sense as an argument for why Greta Thunberg shouldn’t do what she does. It’s just an argument that we also need other people contributing other things.
If that were true, why has my mild criticism been met with such derision?
So?
Israel bombed a ship in international waters. That ship was filled with supplies and headed to Gaza.
Would this be considered piracy? Not the “would you download a car” type, but the old school type. That was not a military ship and was not carrying military equipment.
Or would this instead be considered an act of terrorism?
Were those truly international waters? Being just 17km from Malta suggests they were within Malta’s territorial waters. This matter should be addressed promptly. However, without a European army, tyrants can act with impunity. 🤷🏻♂️
I read it was international waters, but that’s even worse if that’s true…
So?
Just another good ol’ war crime or maybe another complete disregard of international law, or an act of aggression towards a sovereign nation depending on where the bombing happened. No biggie right ?
It’s a biggie, but honestly I could give 2 shits. There’s way worse to worry about.
It’s big enough for most people to care. If you personally don’t care then why don’t you personally shut the fuck up and let other people care?
Because shot i don’t subscribe to is being spammed all over the fucking fediverse.
Adjust your settings then, don’t cry to us.
I believe you can use filters on lemmy to block certain keywords you don’t like. That might make your experience more enjoyable
Like what? Seriously, what is way worse?
