• Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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    I thought that was hilarious given that she is known to carry and be proficient with a pistol, and Trump has never held a gun in his life.

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      The issue is that the dems won’t drop their gun control rhetoric, even with a huge portion of their base becoming armed and fascist literally killing people. I don’t give a shit that Harris own or fired a gun. I give a shit that they’ve not woken up to the realization that gun owners aren’t just maga chodes larping as nazis. They need to drop the anti-gun shit and actually focus on what needs to be done to correct our move towards full blown dictatorship.

      I’ve said it a million times. Dems would sweep elections and destroy the GOP if they dropped their anti-2a bullshit.

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        I’m sorry, gonna call bullshit here on the last election.

        The D candidate and running mate were gun owners and comfortable owning and using guns. The R candidate when he was President literally said “Take the guns first, go through due process second,”

        YET when that’s discussed, somehow it’s (D)ifferent to the gun owners. The “Gun grabbing democrats” won’t stop but Trump saying that but not going through was fine.

        So when coworkers are suddenly now worried he might be coming for their guns my response is just call me Cassandra because I saw it coming and here we are!

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        Isn’t the reason the 2a is so sacred is to be a check on the kind of authoritarian take over already in progress ? All those school kids were murdered so that access to firearms could continue to be unhindered so something could be done to correct your move towards full blown dictatorship?

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          The fascist are the ones who are heavily armed. On top of that, we’re not at the start a civil war yet. We’re at the ballot box right now, midterms will determine if we move to the next box.

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            Project 2025 creator or whoever said the second civil war we’ll be blooess if the left allows it. And so far he seems correct.

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            Fascism can’t be voted out anymore than it was voted in. Continued support for the parties that have enabled it will allow it to continue growing. .

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        What dem has come out and said they want to take away 2a? The vast majority of dem proposed gun regulations are not anti 2a. Gun regulation isn’t anti 2a

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          Gun regulations are anti-2a, almost all gun regulations will not curb our violence or gun deaths in this country. Almost all gun regulations are designed to limit the access of minorities and oppressed groups to arm themselves.

          https://fee.org/articles/lawmakers-in-hawaii-propose-repealing-second-amendment/

          It takes half a second of googling to pull up links like this. Yes it’s not a platform they run on but to act like that’s not the end goal of a ton of dems is being naive at best and willfully lying at worse. The Democratic party’s end goal is to make it so, basically the rich are all that own firearms in the end.

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            The actual proposal to Congress in that article reads…

            “adopt a proposed amendment to the United States Constitution pursuant to article V of the United States Constitution to clarify the constitutional right to bear arms.”

            That’s not removing 2a. The comment of repealing was just that, a comment. That specific comment didn’t make it to the official request to Congress.

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              Really…you do realize that amending it is just an easier way to basically say it’s null and void.

              On top of that, you asked I provided. Let’s stop pretending that there aren’t dems who want it repealed.

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                Since when does amending ANYTHING mean removing it?

                You didn’t provide anything, the linked article didn’t support your claim.

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                  Since when does amending ANYTHING mean removing it?

                  Lol, the 21st voids the 18th…open a damn history book for once kid.

                  You didn’t provide anything, the linked article didn’t support your claim.

                  I literally did, you just don’t like that there are elected dems who want to ban civilians from owning firearms. All so you can continue the bullshit from the DNC “we don’t want to take your guns”.

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        Not just gun control, if democrats became populist they would sweep elections. We pay more money for less service in a great many areas, and we didn’t use to. Call out those gatekeepers that have taken from our shares, in our lifetimes, and promise to bring it back to us. It’s that simple.

        The establishment was chosen to kill popular reform, not enact it. The only way forward is replacing them, and they are as secure as ever as they’ve convinced the sheep it’s the voters’ fault for not electing the most unpopular candidate they could find that offered zero reform in a time of anger while the republicans ran as reform.

        I’m not helping the establishment democrats, it’s a waste of time, we need new leaders, fighting under these leaders is giving up.

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        Their goal has never been to win against Republicans but act as a buffer between the working class and the ruling class, acting in the interests of the ruling class

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        Who are you going to shoot to bring our democracy back, Rambo?

        The 2nd should be repealed. Kids getting murdered in school isn’t a fair price to pay so that gun fetishists can indulge their fantasies.

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          And this is the exact shit I’m talking about. Your whataboutism doesn’t negate anything I’m saying. It just furthers people who are single issue voters into the hands of the maga chodes because they’re saying “no we’re not going to take the guns” while you spout shit like “repeal the 2nd”.

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            What’s the point of having the 2nd amendment if it leads to kids being killed, but it’s not used to stop the fascists taking over the country?

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              You know more children die drowning in pools each year than have been killed via school shootings in the last 10 years combined? Let’s stop acting like the reason you want the firearms gone is because of the kids.

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                Yes but pools are fun and give exercise. Gun ownership is useless (since they’re no being used now against their main purported purpose).

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                  I have a lot of fun going to the range and putting holes in paper. Way more fun than I have soaking in a soup of little kid urine and dead bugs in the pool.

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                    Mmm dead bugs and kid piss soup. Actually I think most drownings are in private pools that aren’t really like that. But I don’t think anyone cares about guns kept at the range. It’s the general availability that means the mentally unhealthy can easily get them and that leads to problems. And it’s not the just the numbers of kids killed at schools, it’s the knowledge that this happens regularly, the live shooter drills they all have to experience. It’s traumatizing for a lot of kids.