Some comrades over at Hexbear have organized a donation drive for Palestine and, over the past few weeks, have managed to raise over $1500 for verified Palestinian fundraisers. The fediverse is a good place full of good people.

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    I’m not “dick measuring” countries, you just systematically perform western-biased analysis of what are good and what are bad actions. For instance, you’d criticise the Chinese internet firewall or the Russian support to Assad, when the realistic alternatives are measurably worse. It seems that “lesser evil” to you guys is something that only applies to western genocidal maniacs and not to actually significantly different nations.

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      12 hours ago

      I wasn’t thinking about the Chinese internet firewall at the moment, but you bring up a good point - that’s a bad thing. What’s the alternative, internet freedom where china can’t police the media and public discourse?

      Sucks how the west makes china censor it’s citizens.

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        11 hours ago

        The alternative is “free speech” dominated by western tech oligarchs in platforms subjected to intelligence monitoring and constant western interference. It’s exactly these things leading to murderers like Bolsonaro and Milei being elected.

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          10 hours ago

          So the state should choose what people can read and say?

          Why on earth would you want that?

          I really don’t get the tankie obsession with dictators and authoritarian rule. It seems so contrary to socialist ethos.

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            7 hours ago

            The state already chooses what people can read or say. I live in the EU, all Russian media are banned here. I fundamentally don’t disagree with banning Russian media, but it proves that this already happens, it’s just that the state sees that generally western media dominate internationally and it allows us to read it.

            In the context of China, if the alternatives are between banning western media and not banning it, the success of the Chinese model and its resilience against western intelligence and propaganda make it obvious to me that the firewall was the correct choice in retrospect, however unsavory it may seem from the outside.

            Since you’re so excited about being exposed to all media: do you personally go out of your way to watch Russian, Chinese, Cuban or Iranian media and engage with their citizens online, or does your “media freedom” de-facto result in you exclusively consuming western sources?

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              There’s the obvious language barrier, but just because something is not from the west does not mean it’s accurate.

              I lived in Hong Kong for 3 years, Malaysia for 1, and live in a former Soviet country, so I am no stranger to non-western options.

              I hope you give non-western media the same critical analysis that you do western media.

              I’m not okay with suppression of information though. How would I even interact with Iranian citizens given that the government has blocked internet access?

              Media isn’t blocked in western countries like it is in authoritarian dictatorships like china, Russia, Iran, north Korea, Cuba, etc…

              Lack of popularity does not equal censorship and that’s a huge distinction. If I wanted to, I could read NK news.