• Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world
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    35 minutes ago

    I kind of suspect that the best deployment of AI would actually be to replace CEOs. It can hardly make worse decisions, and it’s a huge cost saving.

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    45 minutes ago

    Ok, now literally kill them all for crimes against humanity.

    Beyond being evil, these fucking morons are too incompetent to be left in charge of anything.

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    I’m a little confused by the opening paragraphs. So the advent of computers was hailed as a great productivity booster, but in the beginning, productivity actually went down.

    Is the article seriously contending that computers have not improved productivity? So there were grandiose expectations of huge boosts that would arrive immediately - so what? That’s naive and dumb.

    But in the long run, computers found their applications and people figured out how to put them to productive use. The world is unrecognizable today as a result.

    So what’s the implication for AI? Thousands of CEOs admit that their hamfisted shoe-horning of AI into the workplace has done nothing? Big surprise. Are we just in the awkward adjustment phase, though?

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    Same thousands of CEOs will continue implementing as much AI as possible, because it literally doesn’t matter to them whether or not it impacts employment or productivity.

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    No impact on employment? How so?

    Weren’t there layoffs due to AI implementation, expected or actual? Or is the time and work-hours needed to correct and understand what AI is doing not realizing the expected savings?

    Also, AI/LLM in the popular over-invested sense is the Tesla FSD of corporate tools. A badly designed, over-promised system that doesn’t live up to the hype and far too often commits errors, some of which are lethal or have other serious consequences.

    IMO AI should be a tool used in parallel with humans, like research or medical diagnostics, able to see things we might miss or rapidly try new multi-step combinations we might not think of. Not as a human replacement.

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    “You can see the computer age everywhere but in the productivity statistics,”

    If you only measure the workers, sure. What if you measure the processes that have been automated by programmers?

    I’ve automated a semi-manual (first run this script, then that one, and then…) process. Would that process show up on their measurements? I bet it won’t.

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      I think another big problem that hampers the computer age in many places is bureaucracy and clinging to old structures.

      For many companies there are checks that are enforced, simply because there is no trust in a new system, or the processes to be automated requires a major reorganisation that spans departments, and those departments might oppose such a restructuring, may it be for fear of their jobs, simply clinging to old processes or not having the capacity to carry out bigger projects.

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    I feel like the big mistake they continue to propagate is failing to distinguish among the uses of AI.

    A lot of hype seems to be the generative uses, where AI creates code, images, text, or whatever, or the agentic uses where it supposedly automates some process. Safe uses in that way should involve human review and approval, and if the human spends as much time reviewing as they would creating it in the first place, then there’s a productivity loss.

    All the positive cases I’ve heard of use AI like a fancy search engine - look for specific issues in a large code base, look for internal consistency in large document or document sets. That form lets the human shift from reading hundreds or thousands of pages to reading whatever snippets the AI returns. Even if that’s a lot of false positives, it’s still a big savings over full review. And as long as the AI’s false-negative rate is better than the human, it’s a net improvement in review.

    And, of course, there’s the possibility that AI facilitated review allows companies to do review of documents that they would otherwise have ignored as intractable, which would also show up as reduced productivity.

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      You know…this.

      I’ve used AI plenty of times to help troubleshoot some weird error message. Sometimes just an old-fashioned Google just isn’t enough. There needs to be added context, which would just screw up the Google results.

      I treat talking to AI for advice (in any category) roughly the same as asking an IRC channel…because that’s basically what it is. It’s taking in data from tons of sources and summarizing it.

      Some of those sources might be legitimate and knowledgeable, some of them might be a negative-scored stack overflow comment.

      If you have no domain-specific knowledge, you won’t know how to identify an issue in its response, and you shouldn’t be blindly copying code. Trust…but verify.

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      In that scenario where AI is used to find specific code snippets or other matching text blocks, the false positives aren’t really the problem. The false negatives are the issue.

      I’ve run into that myself a few times when trying to use AI. You give it a very clear prompt to find something and it sometimes just falls flat on its face. It’s easy for the AI evangelists to just blame the human who wrote the prompt, or say “you didn’t give it enough context!” But anyone who’s tried using AI and is being objective about it will tell you that’s a weak excuse that doesn’t hold water a good chunk of the time. You can give it plenty of context, and be very clear, and it still doesn’t find all the examples that clearly match the prompt.

      Ultimately, you often have better luck using a well-crafted regular expression to search for text than using AI.

      And that seems like the crux of the issue (which you also highlight). While there are some very good use cases for AI, it’s being waaaay over-used. And too often its faults are dismissed or glossed over.

    • IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world
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      I have a “prosumer” internet setup at home for various reasons. It’s UniFi gear, which is highly configurable, and configs are centrally managed. They provide a pretty robust web UI to manage it all, but the configuration all resides in plain text files that you can also hand edit if you want to do anything really advanced.

      While troubleshooting an issue recently I came across a post on their support forum from somebody who had used Claude to analyze those config files and make recommendations. Since I have access to Claude through my employer I decided to give that a try. I was pleasantly surprised with the recommendations it made after it spent a few minutes analyzing my configuration.

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        The application you’re talking about might not be a bad one at all. Network configuration is a relatively narrow scope with very well-defined rules and protocols.

        I feel that people often ask LLMs to do things that are far too broad in scope for them to have a lot of hope of doing a good job, but I think you might have found a solid one. Obviously you want to double check everything for sanity, but that’s not so hard to do either.

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        To me, that’s the ‘fancy search engine’ mode of AI where it works well and basically focuses the human effort. A needle-in-haystack problem. It might still be missing things, but they’re things you’ve already missed yourself, so no loss.

        It’s different from asking Claude, for example, to create a new guest VLAN with limited internet access and access to only a specific service on the private network. For that, you have to 1) trust Claude because you lack the expertise to review, 2) spend time learning the config system well enough to review, or 3) already know the system well enough to check it. 1) just sounds bad. 2) sounds like Claude isn’t saving much time, but maybe helps focus the human where to study, and 3) seems like the human might have been able to just do the job in similar or less time than writing the prompt + reviewing the result.

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    No impact? Nothing? I mean, they shoud at least notice something, right?

    A study published in February by the National Bureau of Economic Research found that among 6,000 CEOs, chief financial officers, and other executives from firms who responded to various business outlook surveys in the U.S., U.K., Germany, and Australia, the vast majority see little impact from AI on their operations. While about two-thirds of executives reported using AI, that usage amounted to only about 1.5 hours per week, and 25% of respondents reported not using AI in the workplace at all. Nearly 90% of firms said AI has had no impact on employment or productivity over the last three years, the research noted.

    Well duh, that explains everything. Me getting paid for taking a dump 1.5h a week hasn’t had any impact on my productivity score either. My guess is those 1.5h were mostly used to ask questions you’d otherwise just look up yourself, which also doesn’t change much in terms of productivity.

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      Companies are built on deterministic, predictable processes and workflows. A stochastic tool which randomly hallucinates correlations as fact, absent of critical thought, introduces a huge amount of risk/uncertainty; especially regarding data security.

      It’s not surprising most corporations aren’t seeing a productivity boost, because the product, tooling, and ecosystem are simply not at a level of maturity where they can be trusted with any core or critical tasks. When you add in the potential for significant future price increases, and other unknown impacts outside your control, choosing to voluntarily make your business dependent on some 3rd parties ever changing product sounds completely insane.

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    However, firms’ expectations of AI’s workplace and economic impact remained substantial: Executives also forecast AI will increase productivity by 1.4% and increase output by 0.8% over the next three years. While firms expected a 0.7% cut to employment over this time period, individual employees surveyed saw a 0.5% increase in employment.

    But they’ll continue to shove it down the wage-slaves’ throats.

  • fodor@lemmy.zip
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    I love how Fortune is presenting this as like maybe the CEOs had been deceptive. They are admitting it which means they pretended otherwise for a while and now they finally have to tell the truth… Except Fortune was selling the same line, right there together with the CEOs. Has Fortune apologized for its own part propping up this bubble, when everyone knew it was largely nonsense?

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    Before we gloat too much - and let’s be honest, we all wanna - CEOs tend to be of a certain vintage. I remember how I could program the VCR and my parents decidedly could not. Old folks’ opinions may be less relevant here.

    Bringing all these tools in is basically giving magic beans to cave people. How would they know how to use them effectively? All the while trying to figure out if they are indeed magic. This, sadly, could just be the anomaly before the numbers go up. This isn’t proof positive that it’s all horse shit just yet. It’s just confirmation that the peddlers are overflowing with it.

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      I think your conclusion is too generous. Obviously many things can happen in the future as technology evolves, but we need to consider what people have promised us and what they delivered. That’s the definition of integrity. Many of these CEOs and of course this magazine lack integrity.

      And I think you can be even more blunt. You can call out the companies that are riding the bubble as long as they can in hopes that they won’t be replaceable when the bubble bursts. If they can embed themselves with national governments or as pieces of other mega corporations, then they will survive even if they shouldn’t.

      And some companies are run by people who have gotten rich already yet know that their companies will never be able to deliver on the promises that they’ve made. Because the point was for the individuals to get rich, not to sell something economically viable.

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    So the bad job numbers have nothing to do with AI anyways?
    Hands up if you are surprised by this…

    Why am i not seeing any hands???

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    🌷

    Ai bro dislikes a reference to the tulip craze