No shit. It kills me when people play on console. I mean I get the simplicity and all, but they try to use the “it’s cheaper” angle and yeah, bullshit. It’s initially cheaper, then you’re paying what $20 a month to just play online, then games are $10 off at most on their respective stores and then you get to rebuy them when a new console comes out.
Steam games are like 50%-90% off constantly, and Epic has free games like every week. I’ve had games for over 15 years through steam. So yeah I paid $1,000 for my PC but after 3 years console owners have spent $1,500+ after monthly fees and buying games.
To be fair is you’re into something like Ubislop it is really the only way to go, the integrated excessive DRM on a console keeps you from dealing with a terrible launcher, three layers of DRM, anti-tamper, and rootkit KLAC crap.
As a PC and console gamer, consoles are easier to buy once and play a round of games for a number of years. PCs, on the other hand, are much better especially for certain game types.
Each has its role, but I was almost exclusively a console gamer for a couple of years because:
You can sit back and relax and play on your TV after a long day of work
If I buy a console, I can expect that almost all games will play correctly on it without having to upgrade mid-cycle
It’s quite a bit more complicated to try to figure out which video games your current graphics card can and cannot play, when you should spring for an upgrade, and when you need to do a complete re-build. To add to that I do not like windows and so I’m a member of the linux gaming club (there are dozens of us, DOZENS) and that makes things more complicated as well. With a console, they’ve worked out the licensing, the performance, and most fiddly bits and I can just sit on my couch, buy a game and play.
When I was younger and had more time to deal with things like the above, I gamed exclusively on PC. But with everything else going on with work and life, I find it much easier to just pick up a controller, plunk down on the couch, and play for a couple of hours.
Both have their pluses and minuses. I would say I like console gaming better because it usually happens in the living room and doesn’t feel as anti-social.
But to your point…cost savings isn’t really the primary reason to game on a console IMO.
this is the reason why i dont like Consoles, If you ignore Video Game choices.
(if you want to know Video Game choice: TF2 Is not on Console for example, ik it used to be but not anymore,but its one of my favorite multiplayer game, no multiplayer video game i found is like it.)
I call it accepting a negative, voicing opinions against it, while also not interfacing with it.
The pricing behind PS+, when considering all the Netflix-style games available, is decently generous. Less so for Game Pass, but it used to be better. I think most people are upset that it’s a gatekeeper for online play, but begrudgingly accept it as part of that wide game service.
I’m generally with you that pricing is better, but I have had occasions where a deal price on PlayStation beat out the lowest historical price of a Steam key.
If you were to claim you should never accept a platform with negative behaviors, I would point at Steam’s Counterstrike skins market, which can even encroach on you should scammers wish to sell to you, or steal your account to get a high “user reliability score”. I’d rather it didn’t exist. I still support Steam even with it there.
Their audacity to pretend that the switch 2 is a different console than the original switch is fascinating. They cut corners on hardware when they released the original and now Nintendo is charging you again to buy slightly better hardware that will still underperform.
I get that non nativ ports can have performance problems, but even Nintendo originals run under 30fps with mediocre graphics. You get better performance if you run the switch games on a steam deck via an emulator.
Personally not in the market so I can’t verify that, but damn - just how awful you and your fanbase have to be to release a product that performs worse than your direct competitors on your own originals ground. Steamdeck is already an underperformer in terms of hardware, and how much longer has it been produced than the Switch 2? 3 years?!
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No shit. It kills me when people play on console. I mean I get the simplicity and all, but they try to use the “it’s cheaper” angle and yeah, bullshit. It’s initially cheaper, then you’re paying what $20 a month to just play online, then games are $10 off at most on their respective stores and then you get to rebuy them when a new console comes out.
Steam games are like 50%-90% off constantly, and Epic has free games like every week. I’ve had games for over 15 years through steam. So yeah I paid $1,000 for my PC but after 3 years console owners have spent $1,500+ after monthly fees and buying games.
To be fair is you’re into something like Ubislop it is really the only way to go, the integrated excessive DRM on a console keeps you from dealing with a terrible launcher, three layers of DRM, anti-tamper, and rootkit KLAC crap.
And in most cases you can’t mod your games at all on console, which is basically a free way to vastly increase the shelf life of any title.
PC forever.
As a PC and console gamer, consoles are easier to buy once and play a round of games for a number of years. PCs, on the other hand, are much better especially for certain game types.
Each has its role, but I was almost exclusively a console gamer for a couple of years because:
You can sit back and relax and play on your TV after a long day of work
If I buy a console, I can expect that almost all games will play correctly on it without having to upgrade mid-cycle
It’s quite a bit more complicated to try to figure out which video games your current graphics card can and cannot play, when you should spring for an upgrade, and when you need to do a complete re-build. To add to that I do not like windows and so I’m a member of the linux gaming club (there are dozens of us, DOZENS) and that makes things more complicated as well. With a console, they’ve worked out the licensing, the performance, and most fiddly bits and I can just sit on my couch, buy a game and play.
When I was younger and had more time to deal with things like the above, I gamed exclusively on PC. But with everything else going on with work and life, I find it much easier to just pick up a controller, plunk down on the couch, and play for a couple of hours.
Both have their pluses and minuses. I would say I like console gaming better because it usually happens in the living room and doesn’t feel as anti-social.
But to your point…cost savings isn’t really the primary reason to game on a console IMO.
What year was this?
I mean, to be fair, consoles are being jacked up to insane levels as well.
It took me $1200 to build a PC to play Skryim on high settings in 2012.
this is the reason why i dont like Consoles, If you ignore Video Game choices.
(if you want to know Video Game choice: TF2 Is not on Console for example, ik it used to be but not anymore,but its one of my favorite multiplayer game, no multiplayer video game i found is like it.)
Also backwards compatibility. I can buy a new shiny modern PC and nearly all the games I bought in the past 30 years will run.
Oh true, like Windows 98/95 Video Games.
Just like that, yes. Also DOS Games and whatever
Yeah - through virtual machines and emulators, but still.
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Don’t forget the Humble Bundle which or mostly on Steam.
I call it accepting a negative, voicing opinions against it, while also not interfacing with it.
The pricing behind PS+, when considering all the Netflix-style games available, is decently generous. Less so for Game Pass, but it used to be better. I think most people are upset that it’s a gatekeeper for online play, but begrudgingly accept it as part of that wide game service.
I’m generally with you that pricing is better, but I have had occasions where a deal price on PlayStation beat out the lowest historical price of a Steam key.
If you were to claim you should never accept a platform with negative behaviors, I would point at Steam’s Counterstrike skins market, which can even encroach on you should scammers wish to sell to you, or steal your account to get a high “user reliability score”. I’d rather it didn’t exist. I still support Steam even with it there.
I just bought a Switch 2 and am playing Pokemon Champions lol. Consoles are not horrible
Did you even read the entire comment or are you just here to provide a random fact about yourself and contribute nothing?
They bought a Nintendo product.
Do you really have to ask?
Nintendo is the worst offender here.
Their audacity to pretend that the switch 2 is a different console than the original switch is fascinating. They cut corners on hardware when they released the original and now Nintendo is charging you again to buy slightly better hardware that will still underperform.
I get that non nativ ports can have performance problems, but even Nintendo originals run under 30fps with mediocre graphics. You get better performance if you run the switch games on a steam deck via an emulator.
Personally not in the market so I can’t verify that, but damn - just how awful you and your fanbase have to be to release a product that performs worse than your direct competitors on your own originals ground. Steamdeck is already an underperformer in terms of hardware, and how much longer has it been produced than the Switch 2? 3 years?!
Pokemon Champions, the game that was supposed to be the definitive PVP pokemon game but only launched with 186 out of 1028 pokemon? That game?
Yeah it’s fun