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It’s nice to see the senate opposition functioning.
Edit: 18 hours of holding the senate floor, giving voice to the american people. Lots of tears as american suffering is read out loud for the congressional record. Testiment from Americans across the country. This is the voice of the people. Please click the link, share and watch. The media needs to know we care about the opposition more than we care about trump rambling on a plane about fort knox.
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Bernie Sanders (AFAIK) has done two 12 hour sessions of this in the past week or so. It feels surreal to watch an American politician at his age show such an impressive feat of stamina and determination to fight for the American people. I’m eternally grateful for that man and his lifelong efforts in working for the interests of the working class.
He’ll be making posts from his deathbed. As bleak as things are right now, I really hope he never thinks he didn’t do enough.
Oh, I thought they were actually doing something.
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Democrat Cory Booker’s marathon Senate floor speech, in which he is largely criticizing the Trump administration’s policies and spending cuts, has just passed the 12-hour mark.
The U.S. Senator from New Jersey has held the floor since about 7 p.m. ET on Monday, pausing only to take questions—and a breath—from Democrat allies.
He has so far largely targeted spending cuts, including efforts to dismantle the Department of Education, and the need for greater bipartizanship in Congress.
The 55-year-old has vowed to keep going “as long as I am physically able.”
Booker’s speech is not a filibuster because it is not blocking legislation or a nomination.
The New Jesey Senator is part of Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer’s campaign strategy to focus on kitchen-table issues, including federal spending cuts, ahead of next year’s midterms.
Watch speech clips in the video above, and follow live footage and text updates below.
fil·i·bus·ter /ˈfiləˌbəstər/ noun 1. an action such as a prolonged speech that obstructs progress in a legislative assembly while not technically contravening the required procedures.
What progress was obstructed here? He started at 7 in the evening and went through the middle of the night, I doubt Republicans had plans to move some critical legislation at 3am.
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It sounds like he would have done better to start at 7 AM, but I’ve not really looked into it.
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So you don’t understand either, and are just assuming it’s the most effective way to go about it.
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Dude, we all certainly understand this less than a sitting senator. Get off it.
Maybe 7pm is significant, maybe it isn’t, but we are sitting here from our toilets still wiping the sleep from our eyes while this guy is giving a speech for 12 hours. Can we stop pretending we have any clue?
I’m sure he did, but I don’t know the reason, and the democrats have not impressed me with their brilliance recently.
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So it could be purely performative and accomplish little?
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Every single minute of time taken away from the republican congress from passing laws for trump is good. It means no one can legislate, hopefully it continues for 2 years.
He hasn’t stopped anything from happening.
The article says he has talked all night which didn’t interrupt anything whatsoever.
The correct move would be to hold his breath until they are going to vote on something, and then start speaking and don’t stop. Like a filibuster yaknow?
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Well friend, what are you and the people you support doing? Are you opposing legislation by holding the floor and not allowing it to get introduced? Are you bringing a voice to all the suffering thats coming for us all?
Are you still doing the 2024 dems are bad so just let trump win and fuck the world spin?
I’m with you. Either pay attention or hold your criticism of the only people actively trying to stop the Trump administration.
Democrats voted and spoke out against Trump’s cabinet nominations, forced a 15-day vote against Trump’s executive order, confirmed Biden’s pending judicial appointments when Republican attendance is low, and are the ones bringing these cases to the courts. They are doing everything they can to stop this from the minority.
Well, not everything. Like rolling over to allow a spending bill through with absolutely no concessions it’s things like this that make the democrats complicit and not acting as a true opposition party.
The CR/shutdown was a lose/lose. According to EO 14210, Trump could terminate non-essential government employees in a large-scale reduction of workforce if there is insufficient funding. It would expedite Project 2025.
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/don-t-use-shutdown-plans-to-slash-the-federal-workforce
If it’s lose/lose, why didn’t they choose to lose with dignity instead of lose like cowards?
Can we finally stop the both sides nonsense.
Fuck no. This is exactly the time to hold their feet to the fire and demand they be better and do more… They’re handing everything over to the fascists to try to get the oligarchs back on their side
The last thing we should do is believe they’re an effective resistance
Yes, that’s correct. What I’m trying to get away from the “both sides” thing is because it does the exact opposite which is foster complacency.
Maybe when the Democrats stop taking the corporate campaign dollars that align them financially with their Republican colleagues and kick out the blue MAGA assholes like Fetterman.
Maybe if more than 20% of voters showed up and voted in the primaries instead of incessantly bitching about term limits, we wouldn’t have so many capitalist centrists in Congress.
What country do you think we’re talking about?
Obama proved that turnout improves when politicians make specific promises about the things they’re going to fix and the only message folks got from the Harris campaign was that everything is fine and nothing needs fixing.
Nobody’s bitching about the term limits on presidents, we bitch about term limits in congress because it’s the only way to get the dinosaurs holding back progress to step down.
We’re talking about the US Congress. Congressional primaries average ~20% voter turnout.
Yeah, because America isn’t a democracy. It only pretends to be one.
There’s no fixing this without rewriting the constitution and there’s no way to do that when our politics are this dysfunctional.
We directly elect Congress. My point was poor primary turnout results in more of the same. Your argument is pointless criticism. Throw your hands up in disgust somewhere else.
The poor primary turnout isn’t the cause of the problem, it’s the inevitable result of an electoral system that is designed to prioritize money over people.
Merely improving turnout is not our goal, at best it is a means to an end. The actual end goal is the establishment of a government that represents the interests of all, but there’s no way to get there from here even with 100% turnout.
I’m not “throwing my hands up in disgust”, I’m offering a clear-eyed perspective on the challenges we face and the hardships that must be endured to achieve democracy.
If your organization isn’t treating the U.S. government as a threat actor then it can be safely ignored. If it is, then your opsec shouldn’t allow you to talk about it online.
