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Minnesota Governor Tim Walz has criticized the Harris-Walz 2024 presidential campaign for playing it too “safe,” saying they should have held more in-person events and town halls.

In a Politico interview, Walz—known for labeling Trump and Vance as “weird”—blamed their cautious approach partly on the abbreviated 107-day campaign timeline after Harris became the nominee in August.

Using football terminology, he said Democrats were in a “prevent defense” when “we never had anything to lose, because I don’t think we were ever ahead.”

While acknowledging his share of responsibility for the loss, Walz is returning to the national spotlight and didn’t rule out a 2028 presidential run, saying, “I’m not saying no.”

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    2 months ago

    They were too far right. They pursued the “moderate republican” vote and lost spectacularly.

    It is a politically suicidal idea. But they just can’t stop themselves. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory is what they do best.

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      2 months ago

      See that’s funny because every single left leaning moderate I know (including myself) thinks they were/are way too left and they need to “come back towards center” so to speak.

      For people even sorta in the middle both parties appear to be playing a game where they sprint as fast as they can towards extremism and most people aren’t down with that.

      They don’t need to try and court moderate Republicans. They need to gain back the moderate lefties they lost over the last 10+ years.

      https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/24/politics/democratic-party-left-liberal-q-poll/index.html

      I know that Lemmy has very different views on the topic, but you guys are the extreme left. So of course you find the Democrats trying to go back towards getting moderate vote again as the “wrong move”. Unfortunately you guys (I am speaking broadly at the general political leanings of Lemmy I know you guys arent all far left) are the minority of the total political spectrum these days.

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        2 months ago

        every single left leaning moderate I know (including myself)

        My user note on you and vague memory of your post history determined this to be a blatant lie. You claim to be that, but you most certainly are not

        • Majorllama@lemmy.world
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          Yes I’ve gone over this with various users on here already. You have me tagged as a Republican or whatever, but every single time anyone has asked me about specific stances they find that I am not.

          This is exactly the type of shit I am talking about. The modern left only accepts people who agree with them on all things and think exactly like them. Any slight deviation is viewed as a threat and shoved forcefully away.

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              2 months ago

              You know it’s hard to tell who’s actually a duck anymore when you call anyone that blinks differently than you a duck.

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                Bro, look at the total stream of your comments. You spent a whole day arguing with god knows how many people about different iterations of this same accusation, basically that you are a dem but everyone keeps calling you conservative.

                Maybe the problem here is you, give that a thought. Or dont. I dont care what you do. But your single note woe-is-me trolling is disengenuous and tedious, and maybe you could tone that down a bit and comment less, or with a little more diversity of thought.

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                  I have not once claimed I am currently a dem on this website. I have said Multiple times that I used to be one. I’ve been an independent since 2016.

                  Multiple people on Lemmy have marked me as a conservative/Republican incorrectly because I have one or two stances that don’t align with the left and they assume that I must be a full on Trumpy because of that.

                  You can see right there that most of my opinions land me pretty much smack dab in the middle of most categories.

          • Psychadelligoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            2 months ago

            have me tagged as a Republican or whatever

            I have you tagged as a Conservative, actually, which is accurate based on your repeated comments spewing right-wing bullshit like transphobic lies

            The modern left only accepts people who agree with them on all things

            No, just most things, especially the big and easy ones

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      2 months ago

      Well I do declare, that would just be uncouth and rude, let’s instead keep saying we want to work across the aisle with the fascists, people love that shit! Right? RIGHT?? Oh…

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    2 months ago

    And the Dems are, mostly, still too safe. They need to start fighting while they still have a chance of stopping the insanity.

    Step 1: Schumer needs to step down.

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        2 months ago

        The entire party needs to go. Let it burn and be replaced by a workers party that represents us.

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          Let it burn and be replaced by a workers party that represents us.

          That went horribly wrong in Russia. It turned out Lenin and Stalin didn’t represent anybody besides themselves. And their main targets weren’t people on the right, it was the other 2 socialist parties, the Socialist Revolutionaries and the Mensheviks.

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              Please tell me how supportive Lenin was of the Workers’ Soviets as soon as the revolution got calmer.

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                Quite supportive! Though it isn’t accurate to ever say the Revolution calmed down, IMO, the USSR was under constant siege.

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    2 months ago

    I think the Harris-Walz campaign was just a touch too genocide-y rather than “safe”

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        2 months ago

        That’s quite literally what his side have wanted for decades and have basically openly said that, so of course he did well with that stance

        Meanwhile the Democrats are the ones pretending to be the non-monstrous option while openly being monstrous

        It should be clear why it hurts one side more than the other: one side literally doesn’t fucking have standards

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    2 months ago

    Should have held a primary and not primarily run on abortion issues. Also, Harris changing her accent was ridiculous. DNC definitely set her up for failure. They’d have a better chance with Tulsi Gabbard, who lasted longer than Harris in the 2020 primaries.

    And Master Sgt Walz still amazes me that he never saw combat even though he was artillery when he served through the Gulf and the OEF/OIF wars. That says a lot.