If I were in that room, I would have proudly walked out along with Rep. Al Green. I feel like history is going to remember the people sitting on the sidelines in silence or waving their tiny signs around when only one man had the courage to stand up and shout down the president in defiance, and history will not be kind to them.
What Green did is basically the bare minimum I expect out of an opposition party. I mean, come on people, Serbia just pulled this shit and you’re telling me 10 Democrats crossed party lines to censure a guy who called the lying fascist authoritarian a liar to his face? Show me that you have enough backbone to fight these assholes. I’m tired of waiting for Dem leadership to get their shit together and start seriously disrupting government just as ferociously as Republicans would if the roles were reversed.
What did this accomplish?
No they should hold town halls and protest that’s all they can do. Start with a grassroots campaign and go from there.
This is the equivalent of impotently finger waggling at your bullies for being meanies, meanwhile they still never respect you and do what they want anyways, including continuing to bully you. Fucking useless limp-dick attitude.
The sad truth is that short of acting outside the law (which is…not a terrible idea at this point), Democratic lawmakers do not have the numbers to do anything at all that would have any sort of effect. That’s YOUR fault, dear voters. Shoulda fucking voted in more Dems if you wanted them to do something.
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Majority of Americans are not in Congress lol wtf does that have to do with anything
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Bernie Sanders supporters are a small minority of the Democratic party. The overwhelming majority are centrists.
Which is not true when you look at policy support
Policy support is irrelevant. Voters have no clue what policies or proposals are out there. Most Republican voters support liberal policies when the policy is presented to them without a politician or political party attached to it. Doesn’t matter.
Dude you’re fighting an uphill battle in this echo chamber. These guys simply don’t live in reality.
Then why could he never win a primary?
What impeachment process? They don’t have the votes? You can’t convict the president without a 2/3 majority in the senate.
I was dissappinted to see most of the Dems sitting in silence, with tiny protestation signs as if they were at an auction.
C’mon, make some noise, get in trouble, but do something!
Lawmaker protests accomplish literally nothing except making people like you feel good. Legislatively and legally, Democrats are powerless, because YOU fuckers refused to vote for them. You say “do something” but this does NOTHING.
YOU should have done something at the fucking ballot box if you don’t like what’s happening.
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No, they have the power to STOP a SMALL number of things, specifically bills in the legislature. Most of what Trump is doing is completely bypassing Congress.
Dems can only stop non budgetary bills by invoking the filibuster. Any reconciliation bill is going through regardless of what Dems want.
Trump has only done a bunch of illegal EOs. Which are being taken up in the courts, but he dosen’t care and is doing them anyways.
The “powerless” opposition party in Serbia btw:
What did this accomplish?
Visible support from government/establishment officials of the Serbian student anti-corruption protests. The students that the sitting Serbian government is trying to freeze and starve into submission.
Again, contrast that to what the US did to their students during the pro-Palestine university encampments.
We Americans need to open our fucking eyes, clapback tweets and watching leopards eating faces is just the new bread and circus. Holding up “fact checking signs” during a Trump speech will not save us.
So it accomplished nothing. Whatever they were voting on will continue without them.
You’re on lemmy bro, people just want performative shit to make themselves feel good. Congress do not hold executive power, they’re literally just a vote.
What’s up with people forgetting how Republicans in Congress always manage to fuck Shit up immediately as soon as the Dems are the ones who need to do it?
Because the Dems agenda requires 60 votes due to filibusters. Mainly because Dems want to spend money on social services. Where as the GOP’s agenda just involves a bunch of cuts. That can all be done through reconciliation.
And the GOP has either had a majority in the senate or a tie for the last 10 years.
Imagine if they all walked out and the GOP majority just started passing votes with nobody to vote against it. Right now, if every Dem is present and voting, the GOP can only miss 1 vote.
I think listening to your opponents speeches can sometimes be helpful in resisting their actions. After all, he’s been telling us what his plans are since before the election and most people didn’t believe him.
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Mr. Orange’s speech was in the congressional building during an active session. Al got removed during the speech for getting into a yelling match. That singular action put the DNC at 1 less vote in the house.
True, but Green can still vote. But this whole yelling thing isn’t gonna change anything.
Get in trouble for what?
The only things the Democrats can do is performative. If ineffective performative actions are what you’re demanding, then you really don’t understand how bad things are.
Basically just critiquing the music the band is playing after the ship ran into an iceberg.
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Then please enlighten us.
They never can. They’re just bullshitting
Tell us then.
Why? It works for republicans. Don’t pretend that it’s worthless to try and get people fired up, especially if you have no procedural chance to do the right thing.
If nothing else, make people feel like you have their backs. Al Green did the right thing.
What performative actions did republicans congressman do that stopped Dem’s agenda?
