Commiunism

Killing some milquetoast conservative grifter isn’t “waking up”, it won’t be some catalyst for “inspiring people to take up arms against oppression” either as that stuff only happens in fairy tales (see: Luigi). All adventurism does is kills some person who gets replaced by an identical cog in the machine, throws the perp’s life away and in some cases gets opportunistically used to allow even more oppression (see: Reichstag fire).

Real change comes from organized, unified action and not from lone wolfism.

Yeah, it’s probably mandated too by the democratic party but it is a little strange to cry fascism at your main opposition then immediately go “violence bad do NOT do this” as soon as something bad happens to them.

Funny, deserved, but not very helpful just like all adventurism. Best case scenario realistically is for nothing to come out of it, worst case is Trump cracking down hard on leftists using this as pretext.

Also I love how Newsom was on a speed dial to immediately condemn the murder, no balls to be consistent with the shitpost narrative he hired a staffer to do

Based mask off.

Can’t wait for Dems to respond by wanting to rename it to department of peace

When you vote in Hitler like other small business owners

Sounds like they’re grasping at straws to get a bigger sentence or something, Luigi stans are nothing but adventurist larps in reality

The shooter was trans, and some media + lots of online spaces are already spreading mental illness narratives. Wouldn’t be surprised if this is going to get used against trans people in general, it’s sad.

that’ll show him!

Sorry, whenever inflation gets mentioned the maggots in my brain force me to make a sonic inflation joke

When Capitalism was being theorized, a guy name Sonic Smith had discovered that over time as more money is minted, it loses value, and thus inflation. Thus, when it came time to implement capitalism, it became the 34th rule of capital that was defined.

To learn more, google “rule 34 sonic inflation”

We had liberal politicians fight fascism in the past, and it was great!

Not only did they welcome fascists who opportunistically saw where things were going with open arms, but also forced workers to accept monarchists and reactionaries who repressed and brutalized them constantly as comrades in arms and 2 days after Fascism fell in Italy, Fiat for instance had ordered guards to fire into insubordinate workers if they didn’t start working in 5 minutes.

Workers got so fucked that you could upload the retelling of the events on PornHub

Bowser (evil billionaire who owns multiple castles) has paid Nintendo big bucks to make games about him and include him into Mario Party.

Sorry but this is true

Congratulations, you’ve written probably the most hitlerite comment I’ve seen on Lemmy so far, and I’m genuinely concerned.

Instead of investigating what makes people act this way in terms of material conditions, incentives and values that are promoted, maybe the way power is organized and how it leads to inevitable opportunism or this being an inevitability of a class dictatorship that we have now, you instead go for the “undesirables” angle.

People didn’t vote for the candidate you wanted because they were irredeemably evil. What do we do, kill all MAGA voters now for having the wrong human archetype? Prohibit them from voting? That only seems the natural conclusion from everything you wrote.

It’s easy to blame Russia and China, but it’s not really that. It’s clear that this is a symptom that something is wrong, and that is stagnating or worsening living conditions, unhappiness with how society operates and people hearing that turn to reaction.

Left doesn’t have an answer given how marginalized they are, all you get are center-lib parties that pretend everything is okay or that focus on liberal middle class issues. It’s no surprise

They still heavily compromise, only targeting very specific sectors.

Besides, billionaires aren’t a monolith - they also have differing interests. Someone might have a heavy stake in solar power for instance and no stake in oil, in which case they’d support greens.

Name one mainstream party in the current day world that isn’t being influenced by billionaires or their country-specific equivalents (if the country has no billionaires for instance)

There are a ton of people like that, but they’re mostly found on real life, facebook and other similar social medias and not lemmy or reddit or twitter - those are terminally online echochambers, but I’ve seen one or two people going “thoughts and prayers” or “all violence bad”.

Also, my position is more complex than “violence can’t solve problems” - it can, but it must be organized, with clear goals in mind and people already behind and actively part of the cause.

If you just go in lone wolf style like Luigi or something and gun down a CEO, you expect for the public to see this, get inspired to take up arms of their own and start Years of Lead where rich people are fearing for their lives and suddenly we have a revolution like in some sort of Hollywood movie, but that’s not what happens in reality.

Instead, media tries to demonize the shooter by saying how good the victim was and how their family is grieving (happening right now) to tug on heart strings which will at least turn some people against them, the shooter being made example of in court which essentially throws their life in the bin, the CEO being replaced by someone else in a week’s time and people forgetting about all of this after news cycle moves on. I genuinely only see Luigi mentioned on lemmy here given how he’s the liberal larp darling here, and nowhere else I visit or IRL.

Also, if we’re talking history here, then here’s a fun factoid - some Anarchist burnt down Reichstag in opposition to Hitler and his Nazi party, but this fire was later used by Hitler to expand his powers, suppress civil liberties and was pivotal in establishment of Nazi Germany. Of course, this is only something to think about with more brutal regimes, but nothing like that will probably come out of this shooting.

A good example of organized violence is probably that of the Bolsheviks pre-Russian revolutions - they had bank robberies, political assassinations that were used to fund the revolutionary underground and destabilize the regime, and not merely some bouts of individualized violence.

I love it when some shooting or tragedy happens, if it’s workers then all they get is one line at best and their lives get abbreviated to a statistic, but when some capitalist dies every news site writes about how great and authentic they were for a couple days.

Though given how this shooting was an example of lone wolf adventurism, it’s quite dumb to support it - the CEO will be replaced by an identical cog in the machine like always, a decent part of the public will get alienated thanks to anti-violence culture and media narratives (as seen in articles like there) and the shooter just threw away their life.

Though I won’t lie that it doesn’t make the day a bit better to see capitalist get gunned down