All operating system systems have hardware requirements. Just because you need to upgrade your system in order to get the latest operating system, doesn’t make the operating system any less free.

You are manufacturing connections that aren’t there in assigning meaning whether there isn’t any just cause you refuse to admit the fact that macOS is free. I guess you just hate Apple that much, but I try not to get so emotionally involved

Repeating the same absurd argument over and over doesn’t make it any more true.

AFAIK manufacturers don’t have to pay for Linux And if MacOS is really free you would be able to manufacture and sell devices using it but there is not a single one

That’s not what free means here. “Free“ as in costs no money for the user. Can download and install it without having to pay for it. Because it is free. You’re using the word “free” to means something obviously different than what I’m talking about.

MacOS is free just like Windows is free (the license is included in your purchase of the hardware). Except windows isn’t free. It cost is enumerated on the invoice. macOS is not. Because it is free.

So yeah idk

Obviously, you don’t know because you keep saying things that are very, obviously not true. Are you feeling OK?

It’s not a competition, kiddo. But telling me you finally give up isn’t really the insult you think it is.

Bye!

You seem really upset about this. So much that you just can’t let it go.

But the fact remains that macOS is free. And nothing you or anyone else has said will change that. I don’t know why you just keep wasting your time.

None of this changes the fact that macOS is free

I just don’t understand why you keep wasting your time arguing objective fact.

A small group of Internet strangers here is far from “everyone”. And this is the argument from popularity logical fallacy. Just because an idea is popular doesn’t mean it’s correct.

And the objective factor means that macOS is free. There’s literally nothing anyone here can do to change that. And just because it hurts some people’s feelings, doesn’t mean it isn’t true.

Just because Linux is open source doesn’t magically mean macOS isn’t free (which it is). This reasoning is so ridiculous. And it doesn’t get any less ridiculous them or you keep repeating it. You’re wasting your time arguing with an objective fact: macOS is free.

Unless Apple starts charging for it, there is literally nothing else that will change that. I’m sorry you just can’t accept that.

Your argument hinges on the fact that it doesn’t appear on your receipt

No, it doesn’t. I was responding to your argument, putting out how it made no sense.

You’re arguing that any perks tied to a purchase aren’t actually factored into the cost

No, I’m not. others are arguing that it does affect the cost, however, no one has provided any evidence of this beyond speculation and guessing.

A “free” perk that has the implicit requirement of buying into the company’s ecosystem - whether through a software subscription or purchasing proprietary hardware - is not free. You’ve already paid into the ecosystem and there is no additional cost.

This is an opinion, not a fact. And it’s certainly not backed up by any evidence in this case.

It give me only reason you think I’m wrong is because you have no idea what I said.

I’m not pivoting to anything. Stating the same thing I always have: macOS is free.

You’re welcome to try to prove otherwise, but since it’s an objective fact, you’re probably going to run to the same issues everyone else here has.

Oh, I see. You just hate Apple.

That doesn’t mean that macOS isn’t free. It is.

By the way, when you buy pretty much any PC laptop, I’ve ever seen, the cost of the Windows license is definitely itemized on the invoice and receipt. Since macOS has no cost and is free, that’s why it’s not listed.

Of course, all of those other components you listed are itemized on an Apple invoice, especially if you have to pay extra for upgrades.

Your entire argument is nonsense

You have to pay money to buy the computer you used to run Linux. So, by your logic, Linux isn’t free either. You see how this argument is nonsense.

And you can speculate all you like about how Apple makes money to pay for its developers. I don’t know, they make this other thing called the iPhone that seems pretty popular. I bet that makes them a lot of money.

“no u!”

is not a very convincing argument. I’m sorry you want to turn this into some sort of psychological mind game. But the fact remains that macOS is free. I’m sorry you struggle so much to accept that.

And if you equate “stating facts” with “acting in bad faith”, then that’s your own problem.

I can hardly be blamed for not participating in another person’s delusion. Or yours.

macOS is free. But you’re free to try to prove otherwise. A lot of people have tried and failed hilariously.

So what?

That doesn’t change the fact that macOS is free.

I only ever had one: macOS is free. That is factually, correct

And no one here has been able to prove otherwise in anyway. And no, “something else cost money so this cost money, even though it’s free“ is not a valid argument.

Now you’re just talking to yourself.

macOS is free, and no one here has been able to give a single shred of evidence to prove to the contrary.

I only ever had one: macOS is free. That is factually, correct

And no one here has been able to prove otherwise in anyway. And no, “something else cost money so this cost money, even though it’s free“ is not a valid argument.

You have to pay for hardware to run any operating system.

Nowhere in the license does it say that macOS cost money.

So, no, it’s not evidence of what you claim.

Why? I’m right. It’s a fact that macOS is free.