Any time I go to a large city im exhausted by being charged for doing anything. How do people have fun if theyre poor(the neat part, you dont, probably). And to make it worse many of them probably have a 1 bedroom apartment so its not like you can sit in there all day long (at least i cant).

I realize im still spending money by being in my house out of town, but still, at least things I buy are owned by me, and im not paying someone else every time I want to do anything. If I want to stay at home all day I have tons of stuff to occupy my mind without going nuts.

I figure 98% of lemmy users live in big cities so id like to hear this perspective!

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    23 hours ago

    Then you agree with me.

    Almost the entirety of the contents of that post were arguments that my interviewer was asserting. I disagreed with him.

    I have noticed that a lot more is going to a monthly recurring model, rather than buying something outright.

    We used to buy DVDs, we now Subscribe monthly to streaming services. As an example, and hardly the only one.

    Bluntly, I don’t think people will accept this shift in ownership for much longer. I know many people who outright reject the notion that everything needs to be paid monthly.

    It’s part of the reason why I moved to where I live now, so I can actually own my home. Not just indefinitely rent it from someone else. I strongly believe in ownership and the rights an owner should have over their property… As long as that property isn’t a living person, which would be a very different discussion. I digress.

    I hate that I’m seeing this trend. But I’m seeing it, and I know it’s a problem for basically everyone who isn’t one of the owners of the things people are buying/renting/getting “as a service”.

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      Hmm partially. Thanks for the clarification tho. I do agree there are conveniences that are rentals . I think home ownership is a totally different conversation however so I’ll leave that one alone.

      Your statement that companies move towards this garbage subscription model is 100% accurate tho. Couple that with enshitification and you’re at the whims of stakeholder value and CEO bonuses. iTunes can remove and add songs to your library whenever, games can be bought then supporting servers decommissioned, hardware you’ve bought is intentionally hobbled because it’s behind some other subscription, and like you said it’s only getting worse. And every one of these collect and sell your data. So not only are you buying a service but you’re also a product bought and sold. That being said, rental conveniences are different than the subscription model. I don’t think ownership levels are different between urban or city.

      I’m also jealous of your outright home ownership lol. I’m working on my mortgage and with the locked in <3% apr I’m not going anywhere. But damn I’d love me 5 acres with a dry lot, access, and utilities already placed.

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        11 hours ago

        Oh, I’m still under the thumb of a mortgage… For now.

        I’m working on it, but hopefully by retirement I’ll be able to say I outright own my home.

        Sorry about the confusion. In my haste to make a point I’ve probably said some things less clearly than I should.

        My main motivator for thinking that there’s less home ownership in cities than in less urban areas, is because of density. Between basement rentals and full single-family dwellings being converted to multi family rentals, plus the inclusion of purpose built high-rise apartment buildings, you end up with a lot of families ending up in rental property. Yes, there’s still a lot of homes that are owned, whether a single family house or a condo or something else, there’s a lot of it, but bluntly, you can’t Cram as many people into a single family home compared to how many get crammed into rental properties.

        Most rental homes I know of are 2-3 families of 2 or more, so at least 4 people. While plenty of home owners are a married couple and Maybe a kid or two. At best they’re on par, at worst there’s 3 or 4 times as many people per house.

        Home owners are simply existing in lower densities.

        If I walk down a street in a medium sized town and ask the people on a street if they own or rent, it might come out as 50/50 for how many houses are bought or rented. Given that rentals tend to have higher occupancy, you end up with more families renting than owning, and that’s before you account for apartments and condos.

        From my experience apartment buildings are far more common than condos, and generally have smaller units in larger buildings, so there’s simply more people per sq ft, and all of those are renting.

        I don’t have hard numbers on any of this, it’s entirely my opinion based on anecdotal evidence at best, but I would estimate that there’s a nontrivial difference in numbers between who might be renting and who is buying/owning.

        I definitely could be wrong.