• RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world
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    After years and years of complaining about ‘censorship online’ they’re gonna start arresting people for what they say online.

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      It was always projection. They accuse their enemies of what they themselves wanted to do.

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      No, what will happen is they’ll use an LLM to analyze the data.

      The LLM will falsely tag millions of people.

      There will be some notable wrong arrests, and then six months later those people, after having their lives ruined, will sell their stories. They don’t have the intelligence, manpower, or discipline to parse this data intelligently or accurately.

      And if it makes you feel better, consider how many contexts the word ‘Ice’ can be used in.

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        And if it makes you feel better, consider how many contexts the word ‘Ice’ can be used in.

        Just for the record, I really don’t like ice. It’s cold, slippery and wet. And people ruin perfectly nice whiskeys by overdoing the ice in them.

        Also fuck the shitty US fascist police, too.

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          Ice skating is pretty fun though. Strapping knives to your feet and then gliding on a frozen lake is great fun!

          But those shitty ICE agents, they can fuck right off on that frozen lake

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    Fuck ICE and the little dick Donald Trump. Arrest everyone with proven ties to epstine, and destroy the checkbooks of every single billionaire by taxing them.

    Signed pretty much EVERY FUCKING MENTALLY SANE AMERICAN.

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      I would love journalists to rake discord over the coals for this and have them explain exactly how they think that this mentality is acceptable in the current political climate. Of course they won’t because journalism is dead these days.

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    I’m sure tech companies will fight really hard to protect their users from a fascist government /s

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    Born with free speech and no one gets to change that deal.

    Don’t interfere with my rights. Just don’t.

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    remind people, that subpeonas arnt Legal warrants by the courts, its and intimidaiton letter by a court officer, which is apparently very different an actual warrant or an order.

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      It’s “administrative warrants” so it’s not even a court officer. It’s the police calling something a warrant that is a request by law enforcement to get the information. No judges, no courts are involved as I understand it.

      This way though it sounds like they had to comply. Reddit did mostly comply by the way.

    • Da Cap’n@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      That’s the scary part! To what degree do you have to be anti-ice to get on their radar?! Protester? Shit talker? Meme sharer?

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        The only way to stand up to fascism is with solidarity in numbers. So let’s not let the Nazi ICE thugs intimidate anyone out of criticizing their pathetic white supremacist ways.

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    There has to be a way for some enterprising soul to start turning over ICE to ICE? There has to be something in the thousands of recruits that can get them arrested by their own?

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      I read a speculation somewhere that DHS want to declare all opposition to their activities as domestic terrorists and then remove their right to vote. There have been multiple articles detailing how the people who follow agents around and report their location are served papers later declaring them to be domestic terrorists and then they are placed on a no fly list. I’m sure more is to come. Reportedly, all the agents use facial recognition cameras to sweep the crowds for logging in a database, but another report suggests that the recognition part isn’t working so well.

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        All while their representatives testifying to congress claimed there is no database of americans opposing ice. We all know there is, one of the police told the protesters they were on it and to have fun with that as well.

        We need consequences for these guys lying to congress like that. Whoever that was just a few days ago should be forced out. He can’t claim ignorance, or litigate the definition of database, he knows he lied, we know he lied.

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          I remember the “have fun with that” quote. It was oddly smug and childish, which is why it stuck out.

          Perhaps it’s naive of me to think so, but I read that the Minnesota District Attorney is deliberately not pressing charges (at least for the 2 murders) until the chance of a presidental pardon is nil.

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            The minnesota attorney(ies) isn’t pressing charges because they are derelict in their duty, showing cowardice in covering their charges by the Shield of State Law, and surrendering the 10th amendment to the feds.

            Not having evidence shared by the feds, when there are multiple videos of the incidents, is disingenuous, and it isn’t credible for anyone to accept that as an explanation, even if one discounts how democrats do that with every issue opposed by powerful interests they promised to do something about, they make a performative gesture, get stopped, then say well I tried, as if that performative effort was sufficient and there was no real politik to be played.

            The feds set the precedent of summary execution of a citizen without cause, denying the state access, then lying about irrefutable fact to justify it, branding their victims as domestic terrorists at that.

            Under this precedent, they could accost the governor, throw him around, shoot him dead, then claim he grabbed for a gun. Cameras or no. You do all understand why it’s important the state presses charges even if the feds defeat them, or forestall them? This is a big deal, and these are just precedents to use when it counts, they are setting as many as possible on immigration because it’s the issue they have the most support on.

            Nationwide injunctions are forbidden, so there is nothing to stop them from rounding up people into camps without cause. Unrest caused by stealing elections, or whatever else will get ugly, they are planning on it, and fighting under these democrats as we are, we are guaranteed to lose. We inlcluding democracy, such as is left of it.

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              The minnesota attorney(ies) isn’t pressing charges because they are derelict in their duty

              This then becomes a voter issue to install someone who will represent the people. Alternatively, protests to hold elected officials accountable to their duties or promises.

              democrats do that with every issue opposed by powerful interests they promised to do something about, they make a performative gesture, get stopped, then say well I tried

              I’ve seen this far too many times. Again, holding elected officials accountable may be the only way.

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                I don’t know if they have recall elections, but we should help them start one, it’s the only way they will take on the republican machine. I mean I get their reluctance to be singled out by the national party as an enemy of the people. But they chose to be attorney general, it’s not all kicking poor people while the police hold them down. They need to do their jobs, or make way for those that will.

                We desperately need reform otherwise, to overcome the united opposition of the establishment when a rare reformer does make it in there, they stop at nothing to try to remove them. Krasner in Philly even had the state government scheming to remove him with an impeachment or something based on demonstrably false connections between cash bail and public safety. Justice is not served by screwing the poor. It’s not served by tax farming them with excessive fees and enforcements either, let alone seizing their property in defiance of the 5th amendment in forfeiture.

                So it would be a good time for a real reform candidate, hopefully an aggressive one that will treat those ad hominem attacks on reform prosecutors with the scorn it deserves.