• InputZero@lemmy.world
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      Acting like not voting at all would fix anything is a huge part of the problem. Yeah the Democrats not going to do anything, but you know what that means, the Democrats won’t do anything. They won’t embarass America on the world stage every day, they won’t fund the Gestapo to assault minorities and they won’t threaten allies with invasion.

      Sure the Democrats suck, the whole damn system sucks but it’s a whole lot better for a whole lot of people when the Republicans are not in charge.

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        I wouldn’t advocate for not voting, voting third party would be my advice if you don’t want to personally get involved in politics.

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          voting third party would be my advice

          Hope that advice only applies to local/state elections, cuz voting 3rd party for president is about as useful as an asshole on your elbow.

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            The only reason its as ineffective as it is now is because of people like you spend a ridiculous amount of time and effort shaming those who might consider it.

            Saying a third party couldn’t win is factually incorrect, yet its a common phrase on here isn’t it.

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              Only once has a third party candidate made much progress, and Perot was right-wing/libertarian. You can’t skip right to a third party presidential candidate without making progress with that party locally first, then in Congress. That just how this system works. You can pretend that enough people will spontaneously vote for your same third party candidate, but that’s a demonstrably a fantasy. You can claim that a vote reflects on your own morality rather than something strategic and practical, but that’s a view pushed by people hoping to take advantage of youth vanity and split the vote.

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                You can’t skip right to a third party presidential candidate without making progress with that party locally first

                I swear to God. It’s like trying to tell a child you can’t have ice cream because you’re stranded on a desert island and they KEEP INSISTING that they want ice cream.

                It’s infuriating.

                Like, it isn’t complicated. You can’t start at the beginning of a board game, roll a 6, and move your piece 57 spaces to the end and win. That’s impossible.

                It’s wild how many Americans exist outside reality.

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                  This absolutely can happen, but its not popular in America. Americans just want to vote for their team, at least the majority of them.

                  And your example is absurd, Trump himself skipped the entire game, and then took over one of the parties.

                  The only wild thing here is that you lack any creative thought to find a better solution than to vote for democrats and hope the country doesn’t fall apart by the time you pass away.

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                    This absolutely can happen

                    And theoretically all humans can live in peace and harmony with one another. Doesn’t mean it’s happening.

                    Trump himself skipped the entire game

                    Yeah, but he ran as the candidate for one of the two main parties. That is in no way equivalent to a 3rd party presidential candidate winning. Your comparison is absurd.

                    The only wild thing here is that you lack any creative thought to find a better solution

                    My child. The only solution you’ve indicated is voting 3rd party, which I’ve clearly explained to you is not a viable option. That isn’t an opinion. It’s a fact. It’s a fact because no 3rd party has any influence. It’s a fact because the most popular 3rd party candidate can’t even break 1% of the votes.

                    Why do you choose to live in a fantasy? Is real life just too hard?

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        They won’t embarass America on the world stage every day, they won’t fund the Gestapo to assault minorities and they won’t threaten allies with invasion.

        Yaaay we get decorum and stability at home so we can ignore the Palestinians / Yemenis / Somalis / etc being bombed overseas! Hopefully the bomb will even be dropped by a diverse team under the Dems!

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          That’s a single issue. I agree it’s shitty all around. But there are hundreds of issues that are more important. Namely allowing children to be molested, people dying from not having healthcare, and deporting parents and stranding children just to name a few.

          It’s shitty all around. It’s even shittier when it turns into a pissing contest of shittiness.

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            1. Joe Biden had the files and did not release them, so miss me with the “only dems will save the kids” shit
            2. I don’t know why you’re implying we need to pick one or the other, but claiming that (at most) 100 - 200 western children being molested takes precedence over thousands of Palestinian children being murdered displays your white supremacist mindset.
            3. Parents being deported and stranding children is terrible. It is not more terrible than parents being murdered and children being murdered. What the fuck are you talking about?
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                  If Blue MAGA hates you, it’s because you wanted to actually try something new with evidence it works.

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                    Very true. And/or because you prioritize the deaths of non-Americans over American liberals losing a slight degree of their privilege and needing to actually be uncomfortable about, and face-to-face with, the state of our imperialist shithole country. Thankfully the internet isn’t a popularity contest for me so I’ll survive okay lol