Without arguing either for or against the practice, losing feeling is an outdated idea. It’s been studied and shown that circumcised men are just as sensitive as uncircumcised
Nerve endings in the foreskin are not that sensitive to sexual stimuli, I would consider that as much loss of sensitivity as amputating a leg is loss of sensitivity.
Even the glans loses sensitivity. On an uncircumcised penis, that whole area is basically a mucus membrane. On a circumcised penis, it becomes dry an rougher, like the skin on your knuckle. It absolutely does reduce sensitivity.
Also,
I would consider that as much loss of sensitivity as amputating a leg is loss of sensitivity.
You wouldn’t say doctors should amputate babies’ legs to reduce risk of gangrene, would you? How is that even an argument? “Oh, those nerve endings don’t matter cause it’s just like losing a leg, nbd.” What the fuck?
On a circumcised penis, it becomes dry an rougher, like the skin on your knuckle. It absolutely does reduce sensitivity.
Anecdotal evidence, I know, but I didn’t notice loss in sensitivity since my circumcision. Healing was a bit of a pain, but other than that I experience just as much pleasure as before.
How is that even an argument? “Oh, those nerve endings don’t matter cause it’s just like losing a leg, nbd.” What the fuck?
The point is: it’s a bit facetious to call nerve loss from removing a part of a body a loss of sensitivity. You got a piece of skin removed, of course it’s not sensitive, it’s gone. As for the skin under the foreskin, it didn’t got removed, why would it lose nerve endings?
From what I experienced, again anecdotal so not a study, I highly doubt loss of sensitivity argument. Just to be clear, I don’t think babies should get circumcised, but I wouldn’t use an argument I feel is weak to argue against it.
The brain is weird and whacky the way it works. It has a sort of auto-gain. The less nerve stimulus over time leads to a higher sensitivity of remaining nerves. Often when people lose a limb, they still feel pain in it - the lack of nerve signals causes the remaining nerve endings to be amplified so much that despite not even having pain receptors, the noise signals are perceived as pain. So a human growing up with a cut forskin simply adapts and the brain perceives more sensitivity from the other nerves to produce the same levels of sensation.
So a human growing up with a cut foreskin simply adapts and the brain perceives more sensitivity from the other nerves to produce the same levels of sensation.
That is just false. You sound like someone who isn’t circumcised.
Without the foreskin intact, the glans is subject to friction throughout the day as it’s in contact with the inside of one’s clothes. This reduces sensitivity over time and builds thicker, drier, and rougher layers of skin. Whereas the glans of an uncircumcised penis is basically a mucus membrane, on a circumcised penis it’s more like the skin of a knuckle, but thicker.
Yeah that sounds bad. But it’s completely untrue. Like the skin on a knuckle? Haha. If you have to make up stuff why even bother? Conversly, if your dick is really like a knuckle, you should really see a doctor about that.
Oh yeah, I forgot you know more about my dick than I do. The knuckle isn’t a perfect analogy, but that’s no reason to ignore the main point, which is that the glans itself is physically different on circumcised penises because of the friction it’s exposed to throughout the day.
You’re the one peddling misinformation by pretending there’s no difference between circumcised and uncircumcised dicks, and quite frankly with how systemic the problem is, I see no reason to tolerate your bullshit.
That, uhh, sounds nice and all, but I don’t believe it. This doesn’t even make sense on the face of it: Why does removing one body part lead to phantom pain signals, but removing another body part lead to improved sensation? Do people who lose fingers develop better sensation in their remaining fingers to compensate? Wouldn’t it stand to reason then that some men would get phantom foreskin pain?
There’s plenty of signals coming from the nerve bundles in the area. Phantom pain seems to need larger sets of nerve bundles removed/unstimulated. Is s not fully understood, but that seems to be how it works. People who lose fingers often do get increased sensitivity on other fingers and they can also get phantom pain.
Again, I have to express doubt. I understand brain plasticity, and why some people can read Braille, while I cannot. (I haven’t put in the work.) Sensory receptors are specific to certain functions, though, and one type cannot assume the function of another if it’s not present. Nobody can read Braille on their lower back, because it lacks fine-touch receptors.
I did read a study which made a good point about perceived intensity of sensation not correlating with number of sensory receptors. I can understand why circumcision may not affect many men. However, I stand by my statement that you cannot perceive sensation from receptors that are gone. WRT the original comment, there are some men who do experience lowered or absent sexual sensation due to circumcision. Perhaps their brains are attuned to those receptors that are gone. Also, later in life sensory perception of all kinds naturally begins to fade, and the number of missing receptors become more evident.
I think the mechanism in question is more on the brain side. Where certain sets of nerves are processed, if some are missing that area of brain simply adjusts the input strength of others. I suspect adult amputation is different from amputation of a newborn since the brain elasticity is so different. But all we can do it make educated guesses anyway since we can’t do controlled experiments. Studies involving watching brain activity can only go so far to really reflect experience. So we can’t know. I’m just pointing out that the common sense approach you indicated isn’t matched by some clear data. So it’s not cut and dry. It could even be that men circumcised at birth experience more sexual pleasure.
Without arguing either for or against the practice, losing feeling is an outdated idea. It’s been studied and shown that circumcised men are just as sensitive as uncircumcised
Source?
How does that even make sense?
That is non-figuratively impossible. You can’t feel anything with nerve endings that have been removed.
Nerve endings in the foreskin are not that sensitive to sexual stimuli, I would consider that as much loss of sensitivity as amputating a leg is loss of sensitivity.
Even the glans loses sensitivity. On an uncircumcised penis, that whole area is basically a mucus membrane. On a circumcised penis, it becomes dry an rougher, like the skin on your knuckle. It absolutely does reduce sensitivity.
Also,
You wouldn’t say doctors should amputate babies’ legs to reduce risk of gangrene, would you? How is that even an argument? “Oh, those nerve endings don’t matter cause it’s just like losing a leg, nbd.” What the fuck?
Anecdotal evidence, I know, but I didn’t notice loss in sensitivity since my circumcision. Healing was a bit of a pain, but other than that I experience just as much pleasure as before.
The point is: it’s a bit facetious to call nerve loss from removing a part of a body a loss of sensitivity. You got a piece of skin removed, of course it’s not sensitive, it’s gone. As for the skin under the foreskin, it didn’t got removed, why would it lose nerve endings?
From what I experienced, again anecdotal so not a study, I highly doubt loss of sensitivity argument. Just to be clear, I don’t think babies should get circumcised, but I wouldn’t use an argument I feel is weak to argue against it.
The brain is weird and whacky the way it works. It has a sort of auto-gain. The less nerve stimulus over time leads to a higher sensitivity of remaining nerves. Often when people lose a limb, they still feel pain in it - the lack of nerve signals causes the remaining nerve endings to be amplified so much that despite not even having pain receptors, the noise signals are perceived as pain. So a human growing up with a cut forskin simply adapts and the brain perceives more sensitivity from the other nerves to produce the same levels of sensation.
That is just false. You sound like someone who isn’t circumcised.
Without the foreskin intact, the glans is subject to friction throughout the day as it’s in contact with the inside of one’s clothes. This reduces sensitivity over time and builds thicker, drier, and rougher layers of skin. Whereas the glans of an uncircumcised penis is basically a mucus membrane, on a circumcised penis it’s more like the skin of a knuckle, but thicker.
Yeah that sounds bad. But it’s completely untrue. Like the skin on a knuckle? Haha. If you have to make up stuff why even bother? Conversly, if your dick is really like a knuckle, you should really see a doctor about that.
Oh yeah, I forgot you know more about my dick than I do. The knuckle isn’t a perfect analogy, but that’s no reason to ignore the main point, which is that the glans itself is physically different on circumcised penises because of the friction it’s exposed to throughout the day.
You’re the one peddling misinformation by pretending there’s no difference between circumcised and uncircumcised dicks, and quite frankly with how systemic the problem is, I see no reason to tolerate your bullshit.
That, uhh, sounds nice and all, but I don’t believe it. This doesn’t even make sense on the face of it: Why does removing one body part lead to phantom pain signals, but removing another body part lead to improved sensation? Do people who lose fingers develop better sensation in their remaining fingers to compensate? Wouldn’t it stand to reason then that some men would get phantom foreskin pain?
There’s plenty of signals coming from the nerve bundles in the area. Phantom pain seems to need larger sets of nerve bundles removed/unstimulated. Is s not fully understood, but that seems to be how it works. People who lose fingers often do get increased sensitivity on other fingers and they can also get phantom pain.
Again, I have to express doubt. I understand brain plasticity, and why some people can read Braille, while I cannot. (I haven’t put in the work.) Sensory receptors are specific to certain functions, though, and one type cannot assume the function of another if it’s not present. Nobody can read Braille on their lower back, because it lacks fine-touch receptors.
I did read a study which made a good point about perceived intensity of sensation not correlating with number of sensory receptors. I can understand why circumcision may not affect many men. However, I stand by my statement that you cannot perceive sensation from receptors that are gone. WRT the original comment, there are some men who do experience lowered or absent sexual sensation due to circumcision. Perhaps their brains are attuned to those receptors that are gone. Also, later in life sensory perception of all kinds naturally begins to fade, and the number of missing receptors become more evident.
I think the mechanism in question is more on the brain side. Where certain sets of nerves are processed, if some are missing that area of brain simply adjusts the input strength of others. I suspect adult amputation is different from amputation of a newborn since the brain elasticity is so different. But all we can do it make educated guesses anyway since we can’t do controlled experiments. Studies involving watching brain activity can only go so far to really reflect experience. So we can’t know. I’m just pointing out that the common sense approach you indicated isn’t matched by some clear data. So it’s not cut and dry. It could even be that men circumcised at birth experience more sexual pleasure.