• Jmdatcs@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    None of your circle jerk “theory” will change the fact that hundreds of millions of Chinese live in poverty to fuel the grotesquely lavish lifestyles of a few, and that those few are turning their exploitative efforts outward to accumulate even more wealth, while letting a little “trickle-down” to keep the plebs calm.

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      9 hours ago

      The countryside isn’t the backbone of the Chinese economy, the industrial base is. Poverty in the countryside exists because it’s less developed in comparison to the rapidly improving urban areas, due to the explosion in industrial production. By and large, the Chinese working classes are paid better and better every year, as I have shown with hard data, and the rural/urban gap is diminishing year by year. Chinese citizens live off of their own labor, and their trade and mutual agreements with other global south countries results in win-win economic development.

      Not a single thing you’ve presented proves otherwise. All you have is your word.

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        9 hours ago

        Win-win, where have I heard that before? Oh yes! It’s when imperial powers talk about the relationships with weaker “allies” that result in things like sweatshops. China will soon be getting their “fast-fashion” from African sweatshops raising their standard of living further and enriching the parasite class beyond their wildest dreams. China can teach them how to install anti-suicide nets in their factory dorms in return. A completely equal exchange.

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          8 hours ago

          Alright, there’s your thesis. Now back that up with facts, statistics, and other forms of evidence, as I’ve already done for mine. You cannot simply abstract a concept from one situation and dogmatically apply it to an entirely different situation with an entitely different context, this is just metaphysics at work and results in farcical conclusions. No need for me to rehash what I’ve already proven.

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            8 hours ago

            No. Again, I know this hard for your kind to understand, but you don’t to get to dictate how things go.

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              8 hours ago

              Gotcha, I’ll just assume that rant was for the purpose of legitimizing my arguments rhetorically, or personal venting. I can’t force you to make a coherent argument, after all, even if it would be more productive than whatever this is.

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                8 hours ago

                Listen, this is not my choice. You decided to use my comment to vomit out your copypasta, which seems to be your entire life. And then demand I sink to your level of idiocy so you can beat me with experience. You could have just not done that. But now I will exercise my choice to go do something better. Maybe someone, someday can teach you the real meaning of socialism, but it won’t be me and it won’t be today, and it won’t be until you get some help.

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                  8 hours ago

                  Amazing, you’ve said nothing of substance and addressed exactly none of what I said. I am curious what you think the “real meaning of christmas socialism” is, mostly because I think it would be funny on your part, but I’m fine with leaving it at this. All you’ve done is strengthen my points.