It’s absolutely inconceivable to me that USSS let a shooter get that close, that anyone could miss that shot, and that Trump would do anything but shit his pants and immediately save his own skin when faced with an actual threat
The Secret Service part might make more sense with more context. At the time, Trump had somewhat limited Secret Service because he was not the current president. And he was running his team ragged going to rally after rally, refusing their security recommendations.
They didn’t have the time or the manpower to do the job they were asked to do.
Then, this is just my theory, but although the Secret Service is like the best of the best police, I suspect Trump attracts the worst of the best of the best, if you know what I mean.
In every other job around him, Trump manages to fill it with the worst people available. Competent people don’t like working with Trump because he constantly interferes with their work. I see no reason why his security would be different.
I don’t know if it was a setup, but I’m confident Trump was not shot. Even an ear piercing leaves a scar. And that part of the ear doesn’t bleed much. Also, wounds don’t heal three days later.
But as much as any of that, Trump would shit his pants if he were actually shot.
Well that Depends, he might have shit his pants but as early as The Apprentice, he reportedly would soil himself and need to be cleaned up by an assistant on set that was nicknamed Wet Wipes.
iirc the shot was 300 yards with iron sights. That’s not impossible but it’s not easy either. Someone who doesn’t shoot often would definitely have trouble with that
IIRC the consensus was the secret service agent tackle caused it. Not surprising for a frail old man to be scraped pretty easily. The pageantry with the gauze was to leverage the injury into a tough guy image instead of sad bruised geriatric.
I don’t really buy the staged conspiracy theories.
Secret service protection is reduced when you’re not the president and would be spread thinnest during peak rally-season
Trump’s polling was really, really bad at the time. The motive makes sense along with the demographics of the shooter (all these assassination attempts are from disillusioned groyper-types)
He looked confused/in shock during and afterwards and he’s not a good enough actor to fake that
A person died from the shots, no chance live ammo would be allowed
In the weeks following Trump made very few appearances and rumors were describing ptsd symptoms. If it were staged you can be damn sure that blowhard would be putting on photo shoots every day
Yes, I’m implying this was staged and he was just used. Maybe he was even told that he was there to protect trump as a secret backup to USSS. There are a lot of mentally ill people that you could convince of anything.
He didn’t use blanks, he just missed the target. Unless his target was the firefighter behind Trump in which case he did well. Trump got scratched by either shrapnel (possible), one of the SS officers jumping on him (likely) or it was a blood squib (conspiracy). But he did feel his ear before the SS officers jumped him.
I don’t like that this is thrown around like it means anything. You do not need to hit that target to qualify, and you will not be very combat effective at that range anyway. Range quals ≠ combat effectiveness.
First, not even close. The moa of the rifle used was 2-3, where both the m4 and m16 are about 1. It was a crappy rifle that sold as a very-budget rifle. It wouldn’t even qualify as “good enough”. Like the m16.
Secondly, the ammo he was using was a lighter loading for target shooting and lower energy.
As set up, it was at the edge of what crooks could be effective at (which is significantly lower than what he can hit at.) even if Crooks had the skill to make the shot. (Which he didn’t.)
I think it was a set up
Obviously, given the miraculously healing ear. Of course he could also be the actual antichrist.
I do too.
It’s absolutely inconceivable to me that USSS let a shooter get that close, that anyone could miss that shot, and that Trump would do anything but shit his pants and immediately save his own skin when faced with an actual threat
The Secret Service part might make more sense with more context. At the time, Trump had somewhat limited Secret Service because he was not the current president. And he was running his team ragged going to rally after rally, refusing their security recommendations.
They didn’t have the time or the manpower to do the job they were asked to do.
Then, this is just my theory, but although the Secret Service is like the best of the best police, I suspect Trump attracts the worst of the best of the best, if you know what I mean.
In every other job around him, Trump manages to fill it with the worst people available. Competent people don’t like working with Trump because he constantly interferes with their work. I see no reason why his security would be different.
I don’t know if it was a setup, but I’m confident Trump was not shot. Even an ear piercing leaves a scar. And that part of the ear doesn’t bleed much. Also, wounds don’t heal three days later.
But as much as any of that, Trump would shit his pants if he were actually shot.
it actually does.
Well that Depends, he might have shit his pants but as early as The Apprentice, he reportedly would soil himself and need to be cleaned up by an assistant on set that was nicknamed Wet Wipes.
https://youtu.be/W5uqAavJPAo - one of the show people talking about Wet Wipes.
It is worse. Cartilage doesn’t regrow. Take a look at a pic of someone who has their ear torn or shot. They grow back like shit without intervention.
There is no way to that he had more than a graze.
Then again, I’m probably just paranoid. It isn’t like he has direct experience with fake blood capsules or the people who use them regularly.
iirc the shot was 300 yards with iron sights. That’s not impossible but it’s not easy either. Someone who doesn’t shoot often would definitely have trouble with that
his ear also never got shot, and he had blood on it somehow? where did it come from. hence the staging accusations.
IIRC the consensus was the secret service agent tackle caused it. Not surprising for a frail old man to be scraped pretty easily. The pageantry with the gauze was to leverage the injury into a tough guy image instead of sad bruised geriatric.
I don’t really buy the staged conspiracy theories.
One died, two others were in critical condition. The conspiracy theory is fucking stupid. Same bullshit as Alex Jones.
it had back up irons but also a red dot. I doubt he took the shot with the irons flipped up.
100 yds with iron sights isn’t exactly easy.
Does it matter if he used blanks?
Yes, I’m implying this was staged and he was just used. Maybe he was even told that he was there to protect trump as a secret backup to USSS. There are a lot of mentally ill people that you could convince of anything.
Blanks than killed one and sent two more to hospital. Magic blanks.
He didn’t use blanks, he just missed the target. Unless his target was the firefighter behind Trump in which case he did well. Trump got scratched by either shrapnel (possible), one of the SS officers jumping on him (likely) or it was a blood squib (conspiracy). But he did feel his ear before the SS officers jumped him.
Anybody remember that line from Shooter?
Maybe crazy… but…
Why are you assuming he killed that guy?
If this was staged why would trump give even a tiny chance of being hurt by some loon?
There were multiple shots fired at the moment.
Because the guy is dead?
I’m not disputing the guy is dead. I’m saying there were multiple shots fired from different places.
We have guy dealing with people not afraid to commit a mass murder to get what they want.
IIRC, the shot was also just inside where the rifle would be effective.
The rifle is effective at ranges further than the shooter. In every case. That rifle is more than capable of a killing shot from there, and further.
He was 130 m or so away. 5.56 is deadly from further. A lot further.
Every marine qualifies with 5.56 at 500m
Qualifying on a range and hitting a target dead on in a real situation is not the same thing.
I don’t like that this is thrown around like it means anything. You do not need to hit that target to qualify, and you will not be very combat effective at that range anyway. Range quals ≠ combat effectiveness.
Not even close. In the Marine Corps, we qualified at 500yds with effectively the same rifle using iron sights
First, not even close. The moa of the rifle used was 2-3, where both the m4 and m16 are about 1. It was a crappy rifle that sold as a very-budget rifle. It wouldn’t even qualify as “good enough”. Like the m16.
Secondly, the ammo he was using was a lighter loading for target shooting and lower energy.
As set up, it was at the edge of what crooks could be effective at (which is significantly lower than what he can hit at.) even if Crooks had the skill to make the shot. (Which he didn’t.)
The same reason the kid chose it for his nest is the same reason that the Secret Service would have had some counter sniper teams up on that roof.
Where were they?