What a cluster this all is. So many government officials are saying “we had nothing to do with this situation”, then little donny comes in and destroys that by proving he was responsible for it. Then Disney is like, “yeah we will put it back on.” but GOP owned Sinclair and Nexstar said “Screw Jimmy, we wont show him cause we need our merger to go through and we need to bribe the king.”
All of this could be avoided if people voted for a real president, and not a grifting pedophile who only knows “win or lose” and has never made a compromise in his sheltered life.
Let’s be real here, Sinclair and Nextstar’s merger was secondary to liberal tears. They’ve been turning local stations into MAGA propaganda machines at a breaknecl speeds.
It’d be solved if they actually legislated corporate behavior to prevent monopolistic behavior and enforced those laws. We wouldn’t have to deal with these giants like Sinclair or Disney owning what we see and hear and dighting to consume everything for profit and control.
It’d be solved if Congress was controlled by adults who fulfill their responsibility to reign in the executive branch instead of sycophants who gleefully hand over their authority to a demagogue.
It’d be solved if the federal courts up to and especially SCOTUS actually ruled on law instead of partisan team sports mentality.
It’d be solved if the US actual did a proper reconstruction after the Civil War.
Because his orangity the emperor said so.
Actually, he didn’t even have to ask. They just did it, pre-empting the administration
More than complicit, outwardly fascist
I worked with many high level American corporate workers and they legitimately think they can outsmart and take advantage of any situation and they often actually do. Nexstar and Sinclair just thought they can play trump to cash in a quick quid pro quo and nobody will notice and severely miscalculated - suits them right and hopefully they get punished hard now.
Hopefully they get so punished that their entire bloodline is destitute.
Looking forward to how Disney rephrases “because at the time we thought gargling a shriveled orange ballsack would be the most profitable option for us” into a nice lengthy shareholder notice…
“Our government is increasingly a fascist dictatorship and bending knee seemed more profitable at the time but the people were at least briefly awakened from their torpor”
People are pissed about whats going on in this country but they either don’t see what they can do about it, live in denial about it, or are unwilling to make the sacrifices required. So when an easy way to fight back it presented itself, people took it.
“People” don’t know what actions to take. They don’t believe that they are able to do anything meaningful.
They are already struggling and just trying to take care of themselves.
This has always been the case. It always will be the case.
Until a movement is formed that people can help with in their own way, they won’t be out fighting for their rights, that will be going to work. Trying to stay safe. Trying bit to bring undue attention to themselves because the forces that should come to help them if they need it, are the ones making life hell for the average person.
There is no plan
There are no opposition leaders to rally behind
But I’m a cynic, maybe I’m wrong.
My vote is Luigi Mangione. guys a real hero. Sitting in jail on trumped up charges, which if they are even true, would only make me like him more.
I think you’ve nailed it spot on. But I don’t know that it’s more cynical than the proposition that the entire population is waiting for the opportunity to fight one another over social principles (that sounds cynical AF, honestly).
We change behaviors by percentages and generally not in massive waves. Kimmel looks like an exception but I bet it was really an internal schism and we moved the needle just far enough to be exploited by the right people.
+1 for “torpor”
My favorite was AFTER unsubscribing from Hulu and Disney+, I got an email about an upcoming price hike:
Upcoming Hulu Price Change Dear Member, Thank you for being part of the Hulu community. We’re so glad you’ve enjoyed everything we have to offer, from blockbuster movies, to brand-new series and exclusive Originals.
As part of our continued investment in delivering world-class entertainment, the price of your Disney+, Hulu Bundle will increase to $12.99/month on your first billing cycle on or after October 21, 2025. Your plan will automatically renew at the new price unless you switch plans or cancel via Account before then.
You do not need to take any action to continue enjoying Hulu and Disney+.
Talk about tone deaf.
Edit: the email was dated the 23rd.
After they just made billions in profit the year before. Always chasing the $$$.
lol this happened to me too
Most relevant parts:
The group criticized the decision to suspend the comedian after comments about the conservative reaction to the alleged shooter of Charlie Kirk, and said that investors were entitled to investigate whether the company’s leaders “did not properly discharge their fiduciary duties” in deciding to bench Kimmel amid threats from the FCC. The fallout, which sparked criticisms that Disney was caving on free-speech issues and drew some threats from Hollywood talent to stop working with the company, shaved more than $4 billion off its market value last week.
The group wants any materials that estimate the effect of Kimmel’s suspension on Disney’s revenue, as well as documents that lay out how executives are supposed to make decisions around “politically sensitive programming.” It also wants copies of Disney’s agreements with affiliate networks Nexstar and Sinclair, whose initial threats to black out Kimmel’s show appear to have sparked his suspension; emails between board members, including CEO Bob Iger; and any communications between the company and federal government or political organizations.
“Although we are pleased that ABC did the right thing and put Jimmy Kimmel back on the air last night, due to the Trump administration’s continued threats to free speech, including with respect to ABC, we are writing to seek transparency into the initial decision to suspend him and his show,” the letter said.
“There is a credible basis to suspect that the Board and executives may have breached their fiduciary duties of loyalty, care, and good faith by placing improper political or affiliate considerations above the best interests of the Company and its stockholders.”
Shareholders in Delaware, where Disney is legally based, can demand corporate “books and records” to investigate potential wrongdoing, and such demands can lead to lawsuits. But their access generally is limited to matters involving the board of directors, not day-to-day management decisions made by company executives. Communications between, for example, Iger, Disney TV chief Dana Walden, and Kimmel would likely be off-limits, and aren’t sought by the group’s letter.
Definitely financially motivated, and not out of ur the goodness of their own hearts.
You’re not wrong. On the other hand, the more that it can start to be seen that siding with Trump’s bullshit is a catastrophe that will get you in trouble with your friends, instead of just some sort of abstracted sin against the country and constitution, I think the better.
What they’ll end up doing is creating a government/private hybrid network where taxpayers give money to Disney to create “wholesome American content”. Like the Nazis did.
a government/private hybrid network where taxpayers give money
Unlike the Corporation for Public Broadcasting?
Disney✝️
I dont agree here. Other relevant parts you skipped:
A group of Disney shareholders are demanding…
A group, not all.
The letter was organized in conjunction with the Democracy Defenders Fund, a nonprofit watchdog group founded by Norman Eisen, a former Obama aide and the author of the anti-Trump Substack The Contrarian.
And there it is. The questions they are asking forces the release of information that will make all shareholders (who are the people you are describing) unhappy. This makes things difficult for executives making these decisions, thus making it more likely they won’t do it again.
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I fear the best we can hope for is that people do the right things, not that they do then for the right reasons.
The simple fact is that when it comes to corporations, that’s the only way to force changes. The Shareholders ultimately decide who runs the company and whether it is acting in their interests. Disney’s comparatively small fuck up here with Kimmel (compared to the entire empire) has cost the company millions in lost profit from subscription cancellations alone and an untold amount of goodwill worldwide, which indirectly equates to lost profits for years. Losses way more impactful than the small piece of the pie that is the show on ABC.
Maybe they need to do the same with Nexstar & Sinclair. I understand Sinclair is in debt over 4 times its market cap.
dint they lose billions, not millions, just from the kimmel thing alone.
THe colbert situation pretty much primed the situation to be worst.
Probably, I was being conservative on the estimate, and Disney will never admit it. They’ll find ways to hide the actual impact in other minutiae.
Definitely financially motivated, and not out of ur the goodness of their own hearts.
“Shareholders” in the headline was the giveaway
Worth noting this bit from the footnotes of the article though:
The letter was organized in conjunction with the Democracy Defenders Fund, a nonprofit watchdog group founded by Norman Eisen, a former Obama aide and the author of the anti-Trump Substack The Contrarian
I wonder if they ended up making more money for the suspension. I haven’t ever watched a Jimmy Kimmel monologue, but I watched that one. And I would be open to watching more in the future. Just because of how relevant it is.
they lost billions.
I watched, but I have zero interest in watching him again. It was basically just comedy slop, the only joke that landed for me was the “I agreed to read this statement, to renew your subscription…”
But based on the fact I never would have watched him, and some people would probably find him funny, it’s got to be a net positive - 6 days for global exposure? That’s the holy Grail of marketing
This is not a net positive. It’s some damage control but people are going to remember that they rolled over for facism and not renew their subscriptions.
The extra views Jimmy Kimmel will have this week will not recover the lost revenue from the people who cancelled their subscriptions and won’t return.
Oh I’m just talking about his show… Yeah, Disney is definitely going to suffer for this one
Well, yeah. Why else would shareholders sue a company?
Fascism.
I wonder if the conversation will be honest or will be a politicians response with words intended to appease the questions without saying anything meaningful
The difference is that the board/CEOs can actually be held accountable by shareholders, and aren’t nearly as easily distracted by the jangling keys of “immigrants and trans people”.
They’re evil and greedy fucking monsters, but it also means they’re very easy to understand. Line go up = good, line down = bad, and this decision made line go down.
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I canceled and then, the next day watched the finale of alien earth. It was the only reason I was holding my subscription that long. I knew they were going to do a bland non-ending for a season 2 bait.
I was so happy I pirated it.
Honestly, the more I think about that ending, the more I feel it was done on purpose to easily secure a second season renewal. At this time, it’s still not renewed.
I loved the show otherwise.
they are going to price hike even more now, since it costed them a ton of money.
These are America …what questions do they have?
Lol. Are people still talking about this nothing? WTF
Yes, people are still talking about the FCC chair and the president violating the First Amendment with exactly zero consequences.
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When did fascists come to this platform? Suddenly they seem to have slithered forth
Its like a parasite , if you dont fight them from the start they spread and rot the place from within… old story i heard from a bar , if you let one nazi drink in peace , they will bring their friends and crowd out the people who feel unwelcome , and in the end you’ll just have a nazi bar
Yes, we care about the 1st Amendment, thanks for asking :)
Does the first amendment protect novelty television?
The first amendment protects all private entities from the government limiting what they can say barring a few exceptions. Making fun of someone is not an exception. Threatening to fine the hell out of someone for making a joke, ESPECIALLY if you think they have low ratings and no one watches them anyway? Thats definitely violating the first amendment.
Tl;dr Either astroturfing or dumb.
… yes? Very much indeed so?
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I didn’t know. Thanks.
Yes, the existence of Fox “news” and most right wing radio proves it.
It does when it’s the government who is making calls to cancel shows.
Troll account. ez block.
And people are still talking about your hero getting blasted. The world continues to spin.
People are still talking about Zappa, too? What a world.
Hey all apropos of nothing, I enjoy using the bloc function liberally on Lemmy. It’s really wonderful.
Yeah, move on to important topics, like the Epstein files.
Lol. Are people still asking this nothing question? WTF
Protesting Jimmy Kimmel getting an extended paid vacation is the only thing that’s left for liberals to do.
They can’t protest to end genocide, that’s illegal.
They can’t protest in defense of LGBTQ rights, that’s divisive and unelectable.
They can’t protest over the environment, it’s bad for
big businessthe jobs economy.They can’t even protest over inflation, because the BLS isn’t allowed to release bad numbers anymore.
All liberals have left is Kimmel.
What I see here is straw man after straw man. Do you even talk to anyone in real life?
They most certainly do not, probably another one of those white kids on groyper
Impressive collection of whining
The internet downvote is their strongest rebuttal.
Nah, the strongest rebuttal is the constitution, which I thought MAGA was all about, no?
I guess not after y’all came up for air and your lips were rimmed with orange dust
