The officer apparently tried to tuck a gun into his pants instead of using a holster, failed, dropped the gun, and menaced bystanders in response to his own failure
People need to read up on the Kent State shootings in 1970. National Guards “men” shot and killed people singing songs. 4 murdered, 9 more shot, then days later at UNM 8 students were stabbed with bayonettes.
There was an investigation, the Guard lied about being under sniper fire, most of these brave heros admitted they were scared because of rocks. No one was held responsible for a massacre of unarmed Americans.
America has a 50 year old problem of cowards with guns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings?wprov=sfla1
Ah yes, the States. Where you have to be more scared of the police than of criminals.
I sure hope this doesn’t happen over here.
Not sure where here is, but police are the same everywhere.
I feel like they’re worse some places than others.
Fuck ICE. Nazi bastards.
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I stayed just outside of DC a couple weeks ago. I went into a run-down Dunkin and it was operated entirely in Spanish aside from the cashier knowing just enough English to take orders from people who aren’t fluent in Spanish. I knew enough Spanish to be able to get my order when it was called. As I was leaving, a cop came in and started counting every brown person there. He made a big show of it, too, and people started panicking.
I honestly didn’t know what to do in that situation. I was hungover as hell, broke, and had to drive 5 hours to get home so I could wake up for work the next day. I decided to just hang out and make sure the cop knew that I was watching him. I had my phone out and ready to record if more serious shit started happening. After a few minutes, the cop went back outside to his squad car and I pretended like I totally just happened to be leaving at the same time. When I blatantly eavesdropped on the cop and his buddy in the squad car outside, I heard them laughing about the whole thing. Apparently terroizing immigrants and their families is a fucking game to those bastards.
The patrons of the place cleared out immediately after the cops were gone. I stayed parked at that Dunkin for a good half an hour after everyone who could leave did and nothing else happened.
I have no idea if I should have done something more in that situation. I wanted to tell the cop to get the fuck out of there. I wanted to say some witty shit like “Oh man, I didn’t order ice with my coffee.”
I kinda freaked out internally when I realized what was happening but I couldn’t bring myself to just leave despite my instincts telling me to. So I just made my presence and opposition to the cop known in a way that couldn’t (legally) get me arrested and hoped for the best.
Most cops are sadists or ok with other cops being sadists. The ones that aren’t don’t last long in that environment before they quit or get training accidented.
Perhaps you could have done more, but you did something, and that matters in my books
I drive a school bus for a semi rural city in Arkansas. A large portion of the kids that ride my bus are Hispanic. I have had nightmares about this shit since the election.
I’m a white blonde blue eye cishet man and I’m still being hit by the unabashed cruelty and evil. I just want to get off.
Oh god that’s terrifying. Like what are you supposed to do as a driver in that situation? Like if ice raids your bus at goddamn red light or some shit?
Pointing a gun at someone is assault.
Police in the US do lots of things that are against the law without consequences.
If it’s really bad they usually get time off with pay, as a bonus.
Police in the US do lots of things that are against the law without consequences.
An ICE agent pointing a gun at someone like this deserves to be fired. He basically doubled down on his own incompetency.
Problem is, who is the officer? No name, no badge number, unmarked car…
This is how the riots start. Sooner or later one of these untrained ice agents will shoot a civilian because he is scared. Somebody in that crowd will shoot back…and then it begins.
That would get him shot in my state. This guy wasn’t masked, but if they are masked they can be considered criminals, a criminal pointing a gun at you is 100% self defense if you shoot him. It would never go to court.
No badge is about the same, but not as blatant/clear cut. You can say you thought he was a criminal, but the issue would need to go to court. In the end he pointed his gun at bystanders so shooting at him would likely be self defense … but how fair would the system be?
Forget fired, they should face criminal charges as anyone else would if they pointed a gun on someone without a reason.
*deserves to be shot. Like all gestapo.
So what you are saying is they are going to promote them?
That ICE Agent gots management written all over them.
Per the article, these are Florida asssholes in Maryland. Sounds like wannabe slave catchers to me.
Apparently that’s a tactic, using soldiers - I’m sorry, “agents,” domestically you have to move them to a different location or they get soft.
Also fairly common with cops to not live inside of their own precinct. Because nobody wants to be the neighbor who hands out tickets. I know a cop who does stand up comedy, but she specifically avoids doing any comedy inside of her own jurisdiction. Because her interactions are her standup content, and there’s a non-zero chance that the person she’s telling a story about could be in (or have friends in) the audience.
Yeah, some people also have a problem being seen stomping their own neighbours.
The idea is that they’re not put in a position to play favorites or make enemies with their neighbors.
That dumb fat bastard looks pretty soft. Pointing his gun helps him compensate for being a fascist bitch.
Being a fascist bitch is probably not the only short coming that piggy is compensating for. Lost of useless shriveled up roid-roasted nuts in ICE.
isn’t losing his gun like that a serious internal offence as well?
Outrageous. This is not okay.
ICE isn’t so tough when they’re not slamming defenseless women into the ground, are they?
If they were so tough, why aren’t they going after actual gang members? Not old ladies they say have “gang connections”.
Believe it or not, you have gang connections too. You live on the same planet as a notorious violent gangster. DETAINED!
This is surreal. Why does the guy speak Spanish to the dude filming who clearly speaks English better?
Because if you respond in Spanish, that’s grounds to haul you off to the concentration camps
Where the fuck was he taught to tuck his gun in his belt like this? Fucking hastily trained amateurs.
Looks cool in movies. Probably aims his gun sideways, yo.
Trained? Don’t they just apply, given a gun, mask, and pointed towards a brown person?
Nah, it’s not the police. These imbeciles probably bring their own guns, which is why this one dropped his.
Fucking meatheads.
This was a reference to a South Park episode btw. Worth a watch if you enjoy laughing.
Well, you see, I got a nut
The bullets fell out of his gun, too, and he didn’t notice them on the ground the whole time he was walking around even when he stepped on them. And I don’t think he put one in the chamber before the whole debacle got underway. If shit had gone sideways and he’d pulled the trigger, nothing would have happened, I think.
I thought maybe one of the spare magazines fell out of his vest, but it looks like he has 3 before and 3 after. I think he was unarmed that whole time.
Even worse: When that gun was tucked in his belt like this, it doesn’t take much for the trigger to be accidentally pulled by a crease of his clothing or gear he’s carrying, resulting in him shooting himself in the pelvis. Also, had the suspect actually been violent there would have been a risk of him grabbing it. It was right there within easy reach.
The victim was very close to grabbing it after it fell out of the incompetent agent’s belt. I have to assume that’s what this quote is all about.
In a genuinely shocking development, DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin issued a statement Friday which said “The officer’s conduct in this video is unacceptable and beneath the men and women of ICE. Our ICE law enforcement are held to the highest professional standards and this officer is being relieved of current duties as we conduct a full investigation.”
Even worse
shooting himself in the pelvis
Is that worse though?
pelvis
Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
You can see the magazine in his hand and if you look at the right moment the pistol has no magazine in it.
That doesn’t mean there isn’t one in the chamber.
Definitely. I do think though that in his imagined scenario where there was a threat of serious bodily harm from the crowd, that “BANG click click click click” event would have been about the worst possible thing that could have happened.
I mean the whole thing was imaginary. No one in the crowd was planning to do anything other than yell at him, and he pulled the gun out just from fear. I’m just kind of highlighting an additional angle of his lack of any competency. It was only the fact that no one was trying to hurt him that kept him safe, he pretty much did everything possible to put himself in additional danger.
Edit: Oh, directing random cars to drive around a few feet away from this volatile situation was just another element of incredibly dangerous stupidity. I feel like probably he just did it because he wanted to reestablish some kind of control, to give some instructions to somebody since none of the ones he was giving were being followed and that wasn’t how he thought it was supposed to happen because he’s Billy Badass and he’s supposed to be in charge.
He also jams his gun into his pants and then immediately shoves the hand of the guy they’re restraining into the same spot.
I’m no gun expert, but that seems like a bad idea.
Agreed, but still not likely. Whatever the case is, this person has no clue how to handle firearms safely in any way shape, or form.
Most modern pistols won’t fire if the magazine is ejected. Although not something one wants to figure out in the heat of the moment.
Looks pretty loaded to me, mate. He had a second magazine in his hand while he was trying to detain.
He had a nut to pay for
He went for the “shoot my dick off”, appendix carry. He went for his CCW holster, and it wasn’t there.
If only it was a p320… 😭
That took me a second, lmao. GIT OFF MY RANGE.
It ended up being more like the Calvin Klein holster
ICE is directed by jan 6 insurrectionists
they got all the ‘training’ they need:
“I have to protect my people.”
not you. not ‘them’. just ‘my people’.
He should have been taken down by a good guy with a gun immediately - pointing a gun at someone is a felony, and these brown coats have no training or accountability.
They’re being called Brown Coats? Malcom Reynolds would be furious to learn this.
I love the Firefly reference, but I think they meant the brownshirts: Braunhemden)
I did! My bad, got firefly mixed up with brown shirts.
Either one is too kind a term. I call them dipshits, cowards, nazis, incels, mall cop bitches.
The Sturmabteilung (colloquially “Braunhemden”) were literally the paramilitary nazi force. Calling them brownshirts is equivalent to calling them Nazis.
Most responsible gun owners understand why shooting this guy in this moment would be a huge mistake and are devoting an outsized chunk of their patience to tolerating the people demanding to know where was the good guy with a gun was.
If you think I’m genuinely suggesting “a good guy” start a fire fight perhaps I need to be less ambiguous.
I was being hyperbolic - I think ICE is Nazi scum and deserves to die, but I understand that this man being shot in the moment is not the answer.
I just wish it were - he catches a round for his Nazi scumbaggery (and all his friends too), and then everyone just moves on like nothing of value was lost, because it wasn’t.
Reminds me of that serial killer in China who targeted cops in their own homes. They never caught him. I hope that doesn’t start happening here. Wouldn’t that be terrible?
ICE are going to have to wear those bacon burkas for the rest of their lives. It’s their new skin. All for a bonus and a down-payment on a McMansion that they’re going to default on in 5 years.
Alright then, I understand what you mean. And tbh I tend to agree on an emotional level. It’s just that “He should have been taken down by a good guy with a gun immediately” doesn’t exactly communicate that nuance, ya know?
More than fair, I’ll try to be clearer in the future when engaging in hyperbole.
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You do that and you’ll be labeled as a common leftist violent thug and used as an excuse to shoot anyone who objects.
Just saying. You’re going to need to plan a few more steps ahead.
Why are we not calling them, “red hats?”
Red Hats are the rank & file idiots, and also his Insurrectionists.
ICE is a whole other level. Think Brown Shirts vs Gestapo
Because they don’t wear them. They’re all in Tacticool™ camo.
There are no good guys with guns in Maryland, the state restricted that right away from most citizens.
Nth tale from a fascist country.
And make no mistake:, fascist countries are like that because they’re inhabited by fascist people.
