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Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney told Donald Trump on Tuesday that his country will never be for sale, shutting down the U.S. president’s repeated calls to make Canada the 51st state.
“There are some places that are never for sale,” Carney said in the Oval Office.
Canada is “not for sale” and “won’t be for sale ever,” the prime minister said.
Trump replied: “Never say never.”
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Carney also called him a “transformational president” who “revitalized international security” and Trump nodded “it’s true!” because he’s too stupid to realize it wasn’t a compliment.
Carney used “tranformational” twice, then Trump tried to use it but lost his train of thought.
That was the end of my watching tv cause my head hurt from his utter fucking stupidity.
Carney does like that word a lot, although not nearly as much as “if I may”
“If I may” is Canadian english for “please be quiet, I haven’t finished speaking”.
Or in American “shut the fuck up Donnie”
Agreed. It’s called “manners” and “diplomacy”. Something Trump knows nothing about.
Or shut your fucking orange pie hole I’m speaking right now.
Your country’s leader may overuse turns-of-phrase. Mine is destroying a lifetime of political capital and hurting millions both domestically and internationally.
I’d choose your leader over mine in a hot second.
New deal, Canada becomes part of the US but we just let them be in charge and abandon our clearly failed political system
So fucking embarrassing.
Okay so the thing is Trunp might be embarrassing for you, but the threats to our sovereignty are fucking serious to us. It’s like, not a joke. Trunp has nukes and the biggest military on Earth and he’s saying Canada doesn’t exist, shouldn’t exist, is artificial, only exists cause the US lets us be here, we’re communist/socialists therefore should be attacked, we should be a state etc. The US can’t walk back that shit. We don’t WANT to do business with the US. We don’t want anything to do with the US- for generations.
Where did I imply that any of this was funny?
Mark Carney is the person we want at the helm right now in the rough waters ahead. Don’t underestimate him. What he did at that meeting was show diplomacy at its finest. Calm down. Let him do what he does best.
I know! I caught that too! Carney is awesome.
I think he handled him well.
He did. Carney fed Trump’s ego and used almost every one of his good-trigger words so Trump was placated.
If world leaders learned nothing else from the Zelenskiy debacle, it was that.
Imagine if Carney plays him so well that he becomes a trusted voice in Trump’s head, like Putin is. In such a scenario, Trump would pit Carney’s words on econ against his advisors. 😂
Wimpy sat there, too stupid to know he got insulted, and too scared to use his big boy voice. He only does that shit when he’s backed up by his homies or alone at a mic at a rally.
Literally stared at the carpet. You could see the gears turning, but the only thing really going through his mind was that he wanted a hamburger. And maybe a diaper change.
Trump, a convicted rapist and felon with little education and a history of bankrupting everything he touches, thinks he’s going to out maneuver Carney, a man who’s highly educated, has run the bank of Canada, the Bank of England, and sat on the board of Brookfield, a company worth……over $900 US billion. Yeah, whatever.
Trump doesn’t even know when he’s being insulted, but nods and agrees.
OK Trump, time for a diaper change, warm bottle and a nap ya stupid fuck.
This wasn’t a “meeting”. This was Trump embarrassing himself, as usual. Trump talks about Canada joining the US, saying “tremendous health care”. OK, really? Talking about Carney, right in front of him: “This man coming up through the ranks”. OMG! Look at Mark Carney’s resume you idiot. And, bringing up Wayne Gretzky?
… has Canada considered buying the us? After all, we are for sale.
Canada has a similar GDP to Russia so frankly shame on Canadians for not buying a President before they all sold out.
You missed the last part of that exchange.
Carney says “Never”.
He says it over and over bunch of times!
As an American, all I can say is “I’m sorry that we have inflicted this Orange Buffon on the world.” Thank you for seeing him as the pathetic loser he is.
By all means punish America for this. Our voters seem to be assholes and only concerned with the price of eggs. We need to suffer a little financially to learn our lesson.
As an American, I’d like to say “I’m sorry that we have inflicted this Orange Buffon on the world. TWICE.”
Respect for using a Canadian meme to make your apology. I see Letterkenny, I upvote.
Letterkenny and Shoresy are great fucking shows. Fight me; see what happens.
I was listening to a Jim Gaffigan bit he wrote during the first Trump admin which is even more true these days. Short version, he compares having Trump as President to having a parent who’s a raging alcoholic: what he does isn’t directly your fault but you still know you should apologize.
How would that even work? I’ll give you 100 dollars to be mine… then that 100 dollars becomes mine again?
And let’s not forget our health care. We may have challenges, but Canadians aren’t losing their homes and/or life savings because of medical emergencies. I dislocated and broke my arm last year from a bad fall. Long wait at emergency, but once x-rays were done and I saw a doctor, surgery was scheduled quickly. Total bill: $0.00
and the important thing about the wait times: they may be annoying, but they’re never life or health threatening… triage exists
(i assume; i’ve never used the canadian health system)
I went in for chest pains at the end of last year, I was shocked at how fast I was seen. Once they established I wasn’t dying, I had a pretty long wait but overall service was really good and I paid nothing.
Well, not nothing, I’ve paid taxes my whole life. But I doubt I’ve paid the 6 figures amount that would’ve cost me in the US even if you add all my lifetime taxes together and during that time I still drove on roads and stuff.
Socialized medicine isn’t just a better option, it’s the only moral choice.
you’ve probably paid less for your own healthcare, and helped to pay for others’ at the same time
Yes, triage exists. In my case, despite my injury, they monitored me and I was placed in sequence of severity. My heart beat and blood pressure were ok, so I waited. I’m cool with that. If someone is in more distress than me, by all means, take them first.
Basically. If someone’s been on the receiving end of improvised heart surgery, they’ll be rushed ahead in priorities. So if you’re not having anything serious, the wait may be irritating and long, but if it’s urgent, it will be shorter due to the whole actively dying bit.
“improvised” will be rushed ahead in priorities? No, that’s not how it works. No one is dying.
I was envisioning “improvised heart surgery” as in a stabbing with a knife, as opposed to any surgical function.
But generally, if a someone is having a medical emergency and is brought into the ER, or is having a medical emergency in the ER, they will be triaged, and put ahead of a lot of people whose care isn’t as urgent, for good reason.
socialised healthcare! where everything’s free and the wait times don’t matter!
You think medical staff has magically more resources when the funding is managed differently?
i think that socialised healthcare tends to have better health outcomes and wait times are both not that bad, and at worst a minor inconvenience
Well, at least until the cons get elected
”The price is you stepping down and agreeing never to run for any political office under pain of death”
Too cheap. It needs to be “the immediate resignation from office of anyone in the US who would want to purchase or otherwise take control of Canadian territory”.
Still too cheap. It should be “The complete dissolution of the United States as a singular entity”.
What would it even mean to “sell” Canada? Whatever deal they make, the US could just back out of once Canada became a state, and Canada wouldn’t be able to do anything about it. It’s a non-sensical idea.
Selling territories makes sense, but selling your own sovereignty does not.
Carney had to use a word Trump understands.
As a guy not big on the whole consent thing, I doubt Trump understands Never particularly well.
I’ve understood it more as buying the politicians out. That’s the only thing that could really be “for sale”, and thankfully we picked one that isn’t (at least not in this context).
It’s always been hilarious to me that he considers the entire country as one sole entity. Like if I said all the US would be one province.
Being the convicted rapist that he is, Trump can’t take no for an answer.
Carney should have said something like “if you want our countries to be friends, then start treating us like a friend and start acting like a friend.”
Talk to Trump at his level, akin to a 5 year old.
Carney has been dealing with international finances and issues his whole career. He IS talking to Trump like he’s a 5 year old. A 5 year old out of control. Carney’s restraint and diplomacy was exemplary.
He’s not a 5yo, he’s a sociopath.
And a megalomaniac with Alzheimer’s
The sad thing is, this doesn’t sound odd or unusual whatsoever. Given the current lack of decorum, I automatically assume this is how everyone must speak to him.
Don’t underestimate Mark Carney. He was the former Governor of the Bank of England and was a prominent figure in discussions surrounding Brexit, particularly in relation to its economic implications that Brexit could bring to the UK economy. He argued AGAINST Brexit. He was right.
I’d love to be locked in a room with Trump for an hour, he’d survive but I’d tell the world afterwards what his end goal was and every secret he had.
Serious question: Do you think anybody would listen? There have been multiple former members of the White House staff and Cabinet you have come out with scathing tell-alls. Then there are the multiple communications leaks. Then outright just stating that they are going to do the thing.
I’m pretty sure we are well past the point of revealing his true end goals and ending him right there
Look man. If my favorite football team sucks and makes shitty deals for players and has a losing record, I’m still going over the top saying they’re gonna beat our main rivals and are the best ever. Hell I don’t even need to understand why they suck or what they could even do to get better. They’re my team! I can’t let you talk shit about them.
- MAGAt philosophy
Is there at a c/iamverybadass yet?
As much as I want to believe this, so far the only source I’ve seen is Dean Blundell who is not what you would call a real journalist.
Very interesting thank you. Never would it the wished for a banker as prime minister. But it seems hell just froze over with USA taking a big shit on Canada by openly declaring economic war intending to annexe. But once at war you elect a General … He won me over on the Colbert report when talking about the 2008 crisis. He didn’t let Canadian Banks in on the sub par market because he didn’t understand it. Probably because it doesn’t make any sense.
