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      Where’s the database of supplements proven to be effective? Without that we should just stop using them, and then we don’t need to worry about their safety anymore.

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          Is it any good? The appearance of testimonials on the front page is a big red flag for me.

          Edit: Do you have an account? I wanted to see what they had to say about the effectiveness of Oscillococcinum from Boiron. It’s a treatment, not a supplement, but it seems to be listed. That would be a litmus test for me.

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            It’s provided by many academic medical centers to their staff as a resource, so I think it’s broadly trusted by medical providers. Looks like it’s pretty expensive to subscribe, that’s too bad.

            It gives a 5/10 for Oscillococcinum. It says there is insufficient evidence to rate its effectiveness for COVID-19, COPD, and influenza and sites several studies on each, giving a summary of their findings. Regarding safety, it says it is “possibly safe when used orally.” It’s associated with angioedema but otherwise appears to have no adverse effects.

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              Thanks for sharing the info. Unfortunately, in the past 10-15 years a lot of medical centers, including very prestigious ones, have incorporated CAM in an effort to appease patients.

              It’s good that they’re giving it a low rating, but it should be lower. It’s goose liver diluted until nothing remains. It was originally thought to treat flu because when dissected under a microscope, there were small coccus-shaped things in goose liver thought to resemble the microorganisms associated with flu. We now know that flu is caused by a virus that is invisible to those microscopes.

              These is zero plausibility that Oscillococcinum or any other truly homeopathic cure (I’m excluding low dilutions like Zicam) even could work, so any evidence supporting it will be highly suspect.

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                That’s interesting. To provide a bit of insight, I think it has the rating that it does because it doesn’t appear to be overtly harmful (which makes sense if it’s just diluted liver), and lower ratings are reserved for dangerous supplements or those with many adverse effects/interactions with other things

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        Some supplements are proven to be effective and having all information in one database would be useful but who is going to create the database?

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        Depends on your definitions of “proven” and “effective.” The actual effects of that supplement need to be evaluated, not just what that chemical normally does in the body. It needs to cite large double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trials.