So…is she seriously trying to claim that Israel bombing Gaza into rubble over the last two years was all just “fake news”? Is she stupid, or does she just think everyone else is?
yes and yes.
There are some people that are in the positions of power they are in because of the inaccurate world views they hold. There are “morally good” people that uphold the structures of power (but rarely those with actual power) because they genuinely believe they are doing what is good for humanity.
Hilary Clinton is not one of those people. She is not “stupid”. She is a genuinely morally bankrupt human being.
She’s getting a nice kickback from all the US investments (both public and private) into Israel. It’s that simple. Money talks. Dead children don’t.
I think the claim is supposed to be that the parts of it that makes Israel look bad are what’s fake. Like the proof of them bombing civilians, or of their soldiers having called shot sniping contests on literal fucking kids. She seems to be claiming that we’re seeing fake videos that are showing Israel killing civilians rather than the dangerous Hamas militants they are and it’s brainwashing us into being anti-Israel.
Sometimes the elderly have trouble adapting familiar concepts which have changed. She thinks of Israel as this small democratic state of people returned to their ancestral homeland beset by enemies from all sides, like under the leadership of PM Rabin, she can’t process the new information that Israel headed by a brutal ethnic cleansing dictator is trying to kill off 2 million people, majority women and children, to create beachfront property.
Hillary has always been an out of touch, pro war hawk. It’s one of the reasons Trump won in 2016.
Trump is also a war hawk but convinced people he isn’t
See Iran, Argentina, etc
Right, but in the context of 2016 it wasn’t known if he was while Hillary was known.
I mean, he was a known idiot and boot licker, but not a known hawk.
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-violent-rhetoric-timeline/680403/
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-political-violence-incitement/
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/02/trump-stochastic-terrorism-us-capitol-mob-incitement/
It was well known already that he’s a hateful asshole, with stupid fixation and a need for vendettas against imaginary threats
Such a person isn’t capable of being peaceful
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There is a paywall. Going from the headline a racist isn’t necessarily a hawk
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That article is from 2024… And it’s domestic, again not about foreign war.
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More domestic stuff
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More domestic stuff and again from way after 2016
I get the leap you’re trying to make but domestic terror and violence doesn’t necessarily mean pro foreign war.
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Yep, but according to my girlfriend, I’m a misogynist when I mention how bad of a candidate she was. She also hates AOC on principle, so I’m not sure I shouldn’t get some different opinions.
Tell her she only hates her for being a woman.
I have more sense than that. 😆
More like AOC isn’t a corporate Dem and full throated capitalist the way Hillary is.
Reminding us how Trump won I see. Glad she opened her mouth, too many people are still trying to lionize her.
It was a bad decision to even put her up as a candidate. She had been demonized by the right for years prior to the election. They literally polarized the entire right to vote against her.
That’s completely irrelevant, they demonize every Dem. It was a bad decision to put her up as a candidate because she’s a giant asshole and not a talented enough liar to cover it up.
Exactly. Trump didn’t win by courting centrists. He energized entirely new voters (albeit with racism).
Democrats insist that perpetually leaning further into corporatism and imperialism and abandoning marginalized groups like trans people and immigrants will win the “likely voters”.
A real winning strategy would be to have policies that actually inspire people and turn out new voters.
That would assume they actually want what they say they want though, instead of being controlled opposition.
Really it’s corporate Democrats trying to court corporate donors. It has close to nothing to do with this being the policy to win over voters. Imo, it’s why the corporate Dems need to be primaried out by progressives.
A corporate Dem is still a marginally better than having Republicans in office, only because they’re focused on personal greed rather than personally causing the pain.
Indeed. Gulags of work are more inclusive with a Dem. The boot is a wide boot crushing everyone.
Corporate Dems care enough that you’re not starving, but not enough so that you’re not living out of your car or relying on the government for some of your needs. Many of the Corporate Dems probably do care to an extent, but green is what matters most to many so if you have a pulse it’s okay!
Indeed, they care to an extent. They have even devised tests to see how much they should care. They are very measured with their caring.
she’s a giant asshole and not a talented enough liar to cover it up.
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They demonize zorhan as well, the problem is Clinton (like 95% of the republicans) simply believes whatever her donors tell her.
she was always the “lesser of the evils” candidate. For once the dems need to actually give us a good non-corporate fueled, actually, socially aware and empathetic, candidate. Otherwise the party is done and its probably for the best.
drumpf is the kid on the bus you could get to do anything. the dems and republicans are all the other kids. they’re creating infrastructure for a forecasted 25% unemployment rate among college grads and the subsequent social unrest that will follow. Classism 101
I’ve literally seen videos of children’s bodies being carried with a missing head, having bullet holes through their face, or having mangled bodies. I’ve seen videos of Palestinians trying to get food while getting shot at and hiding behind rubble. I’ve seen videos of civilians getting shot right in front of their children and hit with bombs while minding their own business. And I’m so tired of seeing people in suits up on a stage without a care in the world saying “it’s not that bad” with a straight fucking face at every single thing going wrong in this world.
No you see those are totally fake videos edited by Hamas to garner sympathy, the reality is that all Palestinians are bloodthirsty savages who’d gladly kill any and all innocent israeli if given the opportunity!
Hillary, most likely. But also, /s on my part if it wasn’t obvious.
Something something condiment hummus
Jesus fucking christ
Israel is just too valuable an ally for the empire. Why would America turn against it’s own child: a genocidal liberal democracy displacing brown people?
It’s the flaw of hierarchial power structures. They always calcify to serve themselves. Not the people they’re supposed to serve. Look at North Korea and China assisting Russia’s imperial machinations in the Donbas and Crimea. None of them (all similar power structures. Not just the ones I named) are our allies.
They’re living the American dream!
This kind of thing is why she loat an election to Donald Trump of all people. She had the easiest race in history, but failed because she is a deeply unlikable shill
Biggest loser. And apparently only gives third rate blow jobs.
Honestly if the Clinton’s (Hillary specifically) could just shut the fuck up forever we would all be better off.
Well not so fast - I wanna hear from bubba on whether orange mussolini gives toothy head or not
A-fucking-men to that.
These fucking over-privileged cunts have already screwed us so badly it’ll take decades to recover if we even can at this point. They both need to shut up and get the fuck out.
Shut up, Hilary, you loser.
“Totally made up”
Does she not realize literally anyone can go to Google Maps and see a flattened city?
They’re going to have to fix that for US users, like the Bay of America
Excuse me, it’s the Gulf of America! And don’t you forget it!
salutes the flag, dramatic music plays, fireworks go off, and everyone claps as a single tear falls from my patriotic eye
Needs more bald eagles.
And golden toilets.
Nah those buildings just uh all fell down by themselves . Total coincidence.
Recently Israeli settlres attacked the christian village of taibeh and set fire to a bunch of the town and the church of st george, and destroyed the water system. Then when accused of it they claimed they hadnt done it and the christians had torched their own village and destroyed their own water supply.
Here’s a longer version that gives a little additional context to the quote:
“A lot of the challenge is with younger people. More than 50 percent of young people in America get their news from social media. So just pause on that for a second. They are seeing short-form videos, some of them totally made up, some of them not at all representing what they claim to be showing, and that’s where they get their information.”
Because listening to talking heads regurgitating corporate propaganda is so much better, right?
Social media is also corporate propaganda.
Right?! Getting news from tiktok is just the next evolutionary step from 24 hour news channels. They’re just pissed that they’re getting out-gamed in a realm where they used to reign effortlessly.
Oh, somebody who voted for war with Iraq because she thought they had WMDs is worried about other people getting faulty information on the mideast? That’s cute
“Do as I say, not as I do”
This does not make her look any better, especially when the deaths as reported by legacy news are undeniable. They literally require cult-like levels of self delusion to think killing thousands of kids and leveling a city isn’t objectionable.
The true cowardice is that they’re doing genocide denial instead of admitting that “the 2 million Gazans isn’t enough.” The only way you think this is acceptable is if you think Israel doesn’t just deserve a homeland, but ethnostate. That the Palestinians are just like the native Americans, “in the way of destiny.”
Did somebody tell her how Biden (and traditional outlets) fell for the “decapitated babys on october 7th hoax”?
I think the problem is more that 80% of older Americans get their news from Fox, as well as the fact that 95% of Americans think everything can be dumbed down into a 30 second video and their opinion after watching it carries the same weight as someone who spent a lifetime studying the issue.
And yes Hillary always has been a pretty terrible person. But Trump is so so so much worse.
How many decades of study does it take to come to the conclusion that ‘Israel was right to detonate pager-bombs’ and not deserve shit for it?
That is to say not every greybeard academic is immune to shit takes.
I’m sure some videos are staged or focus on the worst tragedies in the region, but I have yet to see any footage that paints Israel in a positive light. So it’s either a genocide in real-time or they’re making existence for all in Gaza so miserable that Hamas surrenders. Neither action is tolerable.
I’d be ok if we could all act like not a fucking thing this publicity hag says matters.
Honestly, I could totally dig having never seen this article or discussion.
If anybody’s brain has gone rotten by the algorithm it’s Hillary’s. I’m upset people are arranging a stage and microphone just to ask her about her worst possible stances, at some point it’s gotta be considered elder abuse.
people are arranging a stage and microphone just to ask her about her worst possible stances, at some point it’s gotta be considered elder abuse.
Lmao my bizarre ADHD brain made me think this meant people were trolling her by setting up the stage and microphone in awkward ways so she’d have to answer in uncomfortable positions, and I was kinda all for that.
I should sleep lol.
^ This person was the “good” timeline for America. Dw I’m sure voting blue will work out one day.
No Bernie was the good timeline. This lady caused this awful mess we have now because she thought it was her turn.
Bernie would have wiped the floor with Trump in 2016. Bernie is immune to any rhetoric from the right thrown his way because his principals are clear and always abides by them.
first time ive ever said something like this, but really, if the dems give us another corporate shill candidate, voting for a 3rd party candidate that has no chance might not be the worst option. maybe the country really just needs to fully implode, maybe that will finally break it out of its complacent stupor. Though, I doubt it.
Because voting red has worked well so far? I don’t get the logic. There aren’t any other options.
How about we all start voting third party until we can establish at least 3 major parties. 5 would probably be better. It would force them to work together to accomplish things.
You don’t get 3 or more major parties in a fptp system though. The system itself is only capable of supporting two parties at most.
The voting system needs to first be changed on a state level in every state ideally, or at least most of them, so people need to start putting a lot more effort into state elections.
Um… several countries with multiple parties use fptp.
Yeah and in canada we get blue or blue light all the fucking time
if the fptp voting system dictates that the two most similar parties should merge to fight the third least similar party. In that case we should start an actual leftist party so the two parties on the right can merge and absorb eachother.
It’s more that the actual leftist party will take votes away from the liberals, but not the full-on nazi party. Meaning that you’d end up with something like 15% new leftist party that nobody dares vote for because it’s new, 40% dems, 45% repugnants and now the 45% is enough for them to win, whereas previously maybe it would’ve been 55% dems.
In fact, to win an election under that system, it would be beneficial to start an even more right-wing party, because that would take votes away from the GOP. But at the end of the day, it takes a couple of election cycles for 2 dominant parties to emerge and the most extremist ones are typically the ones to lose as people unite under the more centrist banners. That’s how you get republican and republican lite, where really a lot of people would prefer a socialist party and a lot of other people would prefer a national-socialistic workers party. They have to meet in the middle and get two parties that are somewhere between the two polar opposites.
One of the reasons she was a crap candidate was that she kept resorting to that same patronizing tone.
Yep Bernie bros and all that.
Anyone who says this should be airdropped into Gaza.
The people in Gaza have suffered enough. Don’t do that to them
Its a Democrat thing, the Obamas did it and still do it too.
Without a parachute
